Brahmānanda: Should we have karmī photographs in our magazines?
Rāmeśvara: What do you mean?
Brahmānanda: Like in the English issue they have three photographs of torture.
Prabhupāda: That is not good.
Rāmeśvara: Torture? What do you mean?
Brahmānanda: They show a man being burned by fire, a man being pulled his body apart, a man hanging.
Prabhupāda: No, that is not...
Brahmānanda: Three photographs.
Rāmeśvara: But not all karmī photographs are bad. Sometimes we use karmī...
Brahmānanda: And now our magazine has no pictures of Kṛṣṇa. The last English edition had not one picture of Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: That's not good.
Rāmeśvara: In the past we were using either a photograph of devotees on the cover doing something or a painting. And in the middle of the magazine we used to have stories either from Kṛṣṇa book or Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Rāmeśvara: Then there was the use for some pictures.
Prabhupāda: So, do this.
Rāmeśvara: Sometimes they don't... They print different contents.
Prabhupāda: No, we are preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa must be there.
Hari-śauri: We can't produce a magazine without Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Without Kṛṣṇa. That is not good. We cannot allow.
Rāmeśvara: I mean, the only place for pictures of Kṛṣṇa...
Prabhupāda: No, every, every...
Rāmeśvara: ...is in illustrating a story. When illustrating one of the pastimes....
Prabhupāda: No. We print... We must, therefore, publish Bhāgavatam, Kṛṣṇa philosophy.
Rāmeśvara: We're publishing Bhāgavatam as an insert in each magazine.
Prabhupāda: Yes, so that must be there.
Rāmeśvara: So then there could be a picture to relate to that.
Prabhupāda: A picture of Kṛṣṇa philosophy in the... Yes.
Hari-śauri: There's always an article of Your Divine Grace anyway, and you're always speaking about Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Hari-śauri: So surely you could put an illustration on that.
Rāmeśvara: We could, but the standard is we use just Prabhupāda speaking, showing Prabhupāda.
Hari-śauri: But there was that hand pouring that thing into the test tube, which... No one liked that.
Rāmeśvara: No one heard the reason. I don't like it either, but I understand why they did it. You have to hear both sides, you know.
Hari-śauri: Well, there's always a reason. But you have to get to the point-Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Even it is eso..., esopheric? What is called?
Devotees: Esoteric.
Prabhupāda: Still, Kṛṣṇa must be there.
Rāmeśvara: So you think... You say that in every issue there should be at least one picture, painting, of Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Hm. And Bhāgavata.