Reporter: Why leave there because the place is more comfortable than this place?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. The duration of life is more, the standard of living is fine, everything is, knowledge advanced.
Hayagrīva: He's saying, if you're going to take the trouble to go to the planet, why not go to the planet that you can live in with your present body, and why go someplace where you have to make so many accommodations with spacesuits because the atmosphere is not conducive to our...
Reporter: But we're not going there with a mind that they themselves won't live there.
Hayagrīva: Then he says it's useless to go there.
Reporter: But obviously, they're going to go there anyway, and, so that's why I'm trying to think to see whether there are any...
Prabhupāda: Now, do you think that after so much trouble, so much labor, if you go there and simply come back and be complacent that, "Oh, I went there," is that very great achievement? If you can live there, you can utilize that place, then it is all right. Just like so many Europeans, they came to America and not simply to see and go back. Why they settled here? That is successful. Columbus invented this island and people came and they utilized it. Otherwise, if simply coming and going, why take so much trouble?
Reporter: Well, that's a point.