Prabhupāda: I'm talking of science and philosophy.
Prof. Kotovsky: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: That is...
Prof. Kotovsky: If we can... So science and philosophy. But another...
Prabhupāda: One religion may accept. One may... That is not our purpose. We are talking on the point of that if the owner of the body is permanent in spite of different change of the body, then what is the difficulty to understand that when this body will be changed, the owner of the body will have another body?
Prof. Kotovsky: But another approach is that there is no separate own..., there is no separate..., no two phenomena, owner of the body and body.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prof. Kotovsky: The body and owner of the body is the same.
Prabhupāda: No.
Prof. Kotovsky: When body dies, the owner also dies.
Prabhupāda: No.
Prof. Kotovsky: There is no separate...
Prabhupāda: That... Why? Why there is no department of knowledge in university to study this fact scientifically? That is my proposition.
Prof. Kotovsky: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So that means they are lacking. It may be as you say, or it may be as I say, but there must be a department of knowledge, what is the...