Prabhupāda: Now I propose to start a Society. I will explain to you, Śyāmasundara, (clears throat) The Society of the Sinless Man. How do you like this idea?
George: Good idea, but mightn't get many members. (laughter)
Śyāmasundara: No, but everyone will say, "Oh, I am sinless," (laughter) "I'll join." Otherwise if we go to them and they'll have to say, "Oh, then I am a sinner."
Prabhupāda: Yesterday, Doctor Sumehta, Schumacher he came.
Śyāmasundara: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: Another, John . . .?
Śyāmasundara: Papworth.
Prabhupāda: Papworth. So we have three our stock. So (chuckling) they agreed half, but not fully, that what is sinful life. And unless people become sinless, it is not possible to understand what is God. That's a fact.