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| <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | | <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">So according to Vedic system, there is no independent life of woman. Na stri svatantryam arhati. Manu-samhita, that "Stri" -- stri means woman -- "should not be allowed independence." They should be given all protection. That's a very nice system. Not... Independence does not mean their position is very lower, no. Just like children. Children has no independence. No independence means they are well-protected. No independence does not meant that he has no independence to act. No. She has got. But under the protection. | | <div class="heading">So according to Vedic system, there is no independent life of woman. Na stri svatantryam arhati. Manu-samhita, that "Stri" -- stri means woman -- "should not be allowed independence." They should be given all protection. That's a very nice system. Not... Independence does not mean their position is very lower, no. Just like children. Children has no independence. No independence means they are well-protected. No independence does not meant that he has no independence to act. No. She has got. But under the protection. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968|Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hamsaduta: Swamiji, did you say that householders should not associate with brahmacaris?</p> | | |
| <p>Prabhupada: Who said?</p>
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| <p>Hamsaduta: Did you say that? Did you ever say that?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: No. No.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968|Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Hamsaduta: A brahmacari should not associate with brahmacarinis. But you did say that brahmacaris should not associate with brahmacarinis.</p>
| | Haṁsadūta: Swāmījī, did you say that householders should not associate with ''brahmacārīs''? |
| <p>Prabhupada: Actually, there is no... Brahmacarini is not allowed in the sastra. Where is the question of brahmacarini? Because according to Vedic system, as soon as a girl is fourteen years old or sixteen years old, she is at once married. According to Vedic system, no girl should be allowed remaining unmarried. So there is no question of brahmacarini. Every girl is supposed to be married. That is the Vedic system. A father's duty is that as soon as the girl is grown up, she must be married. She must be given in charge of a suitable boy. That is Vedic system.</p>
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| <p>Striyah sudras tatha vaisyah. A woman is meant for being protected. So long she is not young, she is under the protection of the father. And as soon as she is young, she is given in charge, in charity. Kanya-dana. Dana means charity. He should find out some suitable boys and give in charity: "My dear boy, take charge of this girl. So long she was under my charge. Now it is under your charge." So where is the brahmacarini? There is no question of brahmacarini. And when he is old enough, then the husband leaves the home and gives charge to the elderly son: "My dear boys, take charge of your mother." So she is always in charge of somebody. So according to Vedic system, there is no independent life of woman. Na stri svatantryam arhati. Manu-samhita, that "Stri" -- stri means woman -- "should not be allowed independence." They should be given all protection. That's a very nice system. Not... Independence does not mean their position is very lower, no. Just like children. Children has no independence. No independence means they are well-protected. No independence does not meant that he has no independence to act. No. She has got. But under the protection. Just like there are some nation still now, protectorate. America is protecting. America is a big nation, and protecting another small nation. That does not mean they have no independence. They are also independent. They are acting like that. But because weaker, they should be given protection. Similarly, woman, children, brahmana, cow, old men, diseased men, they are to be protected. That is the social order.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Who says? |
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| | Haṁsadūta: Did you say that? Did you ever say that? |
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| | Prabhupāda: No. No. |
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| | Haṁsadūta: But ''brahmacārī'' should not associate with ''brahmacāriṇīs''. But you did say that ''brahmacārīs'' should not associate with ''brahmacāriṇīs''. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Actually, there is no . . . ''brahmacāriṇī'' is not allowed in the ''śāstra''. Where is the question of ''brahmacāriṇī''? Because according to Vedic system, as soon as a girl is fourteen years old or sixteen years old, she is at once married. According to Vedic system, no girl should be allowed remaining unmarried. |
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| | So there is no question of ''brahmacāriṇī''. Every girl is supposed to be married. That is the Vedic system. A father's duty is that as soon as the girl is grown up, she must be married. She must be given in charge of a suitable boy. That is Vedic system. |
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| | ''Striyaḥ śūdrās tathā vaiśyāḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 9.32 (1972)|BG 9.32]]). A woman is meant for being protected. So long she is not young, she is under the protection of the father. And as soon as she is young, she is given in charge, in charity. ''Kanyā-dāna. Dāna'' means charity. He should find out some suitable boy and give in charity: "My dear boy, take charge of this girl. So long she was under my charge. Now it is under your charge." |
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| | So where is the ''brahmacāriṇī''? There is no question of ''brahmacāriṇī''. And when she is old enough, then the husband leaves the home and gives charge to the elderly son, "My dear boys, take charge of your mother." So she is always in charge of somebody. |
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| | So according to Vedic system, there is no independent life of woman. ''Na strī svātantryam arhati. Manu-saṁhitā'', that "''Strī"—strī'' means woman—"should not be allowed independence." They should be given all protection. That's a very nice system. Not . . . independence does not mean their position is very lower. No. Just like children. |
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| | Children has no independence. No independence means they are well protected. No independence does not meant that he has no independence to act. No. She has got. But under the protection. Just like there are some nation still now, protectorate. America is protecting. America is a big nation, and protecting another small nation. That does not mean they have no independence. They are also independent. |
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| | They are acting like that. But because weaker, they should be given protection. Similarly, woman, children, brāhmaṇa, cow, old men, diseased men, they are to be protected. That is the social order.</p> |
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