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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>
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<div id="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1968 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>
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<div id="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1968 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="PressInterviewDecember301968LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="26" link="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles" link_text="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles">
<div id="PressInterviewDecember301968LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="26" link="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles" link_text="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">This is monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches.</div>
<div class="heading">This is monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles|Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. So when your country wanted a certificate for making me permanent resident, so I got a certificate from my Godbrothers that I am initiated. That's all. But otherwise, in our country, there is no necessity of certificate.</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles|Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. So when your country wanted a certificate for making me permanent resident, so I got a certificate from my Godbrothers that I am initiated. That's all. But otherwise, in our country, there is no necessity of certificate.</p>
<p>Journalist: In other words, there's nothing like going to a seminary in India where you go to a seminary or a monastery and take a course for four years...</p>
<p>Journalist: In other words, there's nothing like going to a seminary in India where you go to a seminary or a monastery and take a course for four years...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, this is monastery. Yes, there is a monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches, yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, this is monastery. Yes, there is a monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches, yes.</p>
<p>Journalist: You go for a prescribed course of study?</p>
<p>Journalist: You go for a prescribed course of study?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, prescribed course of study, these two, three books, that's all. Anyone can read. Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Caitanya-caritāmṛta. You'll learn everything. You haven't got to learn so many huge volumes of books. Because Bhagavad-gītā is such nice book, if you can understand one line, you advance hundred years.</p></div>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, prescribed course of study, these two, three books, that's all. Anyone can read. Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Caitanya-caritāmṛta. You'll learn everything. You haven't got to learn so many huge volumes of books. Because Bhagavad-gītā is such nice book, if you can understand one line, you advance hundred years.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithCardinalDanielouAugust91973Paris_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="56" link="Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris">
<div class="heading">Ah, monks.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Cardinal Danielou: You know. We are in Christianity monks, monks. We live in monastery.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah, monks.</p>
<p>Cardinal Danielou: Monastery, yes. With contemplative life and austerity of life. And we have many, many monastery in France. Some Benedict, some Benedict and...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Where he has gone to take the water from, Arabian Sea?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSanskritProfessorDrSunesonSeptember51973Stockholm_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="71" link="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, Dr. Suneson -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, Dr. Suneson -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm">
<div class="heading">He was a little attached to Buddhism?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, Dr. Suneson -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, Dr. Suneson -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor: ...Yes. And, I think, he was ill also. He was quite weak.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: When he died, he... Every year he was going to these trips to visit these Buddhist monasteries.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He was a little attached to Buddhism?</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Yes, like Śaṅkarācārya, remember, he was...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Impersonalist.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Yes. He was mentioning to you that he thought Śaṅkara's teachings were much more simpler, much more understandable, he said. Than, attractive, he said, than Caitanya Mahāprabhu's. This was his...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is your..</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune151976Detroit_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="138" link="Morning Walk -- June 15, 1976, Detroit" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 15, 1976, Detroit">
<div class="heading">Hare Kṛṣṇa.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 15, 1976, Detroit|Morning Walk -- June 15, 1976, Detroit]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dhṛṣṭadyumna: I lived in one Christian monastery, Śrīla Prabhupāda, before, with monks. There is no bliss. They don't have kīrtana and prasādam.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithClergymenJune151976Detroit_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="141" link="Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit" link_text="Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit">
<div class="heading">Don't say monastery. I'm speaking that this is the way of training. Even a third-class born or fourth-class born could become a first-class man. This training should be given. There must be an institution how to become peaceful, how to become truthful, how to become honest, how to become religious, how to become believer in God.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit|Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Kern: So this is a development. Saint Ignatius did the same, somewhat. When he began, he sought the leadership. And he sought the intelligent, so that they might do what.... Obviously, you do it also, seeking the leadership that can then teach. We call it sometimes elitism, and this is perhaps a good word for it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So you find out the verse, satyaḥ śamo damas titikṣā, the qualification of brāhmaṇa. Here, it is meant, the first class, second class, third class, fourth class. Yes.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: "Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness—these are the qualities by which the brāhmaṇas work."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is first class. Again repeat that.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: "Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So why they should not be educated to become first-class men on this basis?</p>
<p>Scheverman: That's right. I would agree that that is a worthy and very important goal.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So where is that institution who is teaching these things?</p>
<p>Kern: He said that the monastery did not teach this. I don't know if you can generalize about all monasteries.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I don't say monastery. I'm speaking that this is the way of training. Even a third-class born or fourth-class born could become a first-class man. This training should be given. There must be an institution how to become peaceful, how to become truthful, how to become honest, how to become religious, how to become believer in God. Why not this institution? They have opened institutions how to learn to deal the hammer, technology. But if, in the society, there is no first-class man on this basis, then who will guide? If there is no brain, then who will guide the hand or the leg?</p>
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<div id="ConversationinAirportandCarJune211976Toronto_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="152" link="Conversation in Airport and Car -- June 21, 1976, Toronto" link_text="Conversation in Airport and Car -- June 21, 1976, Toronto">
<div class="heading">Perhaps it was some shock when I said that "What you have not done?"
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation in Airport and Car -- June 21, 1976, Toronto|Conversation in Airport and Car -- June 21, 1976, Toronto]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. They are now asking... In Melbourne the priest asked me, "Swamiji, why Christian religion is dwindling? What we have done?" I told them, "What you have not done?" (laughs) They were little insulted.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: That first time you visited that monastery, the man that was in charge, the head monk there, after you had visited, a short while later he left and he went to India looking for enlightenment.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Perhaps it was some shock when I said that "What you have not done?" They received me very well.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly21976NewVrindaban_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="177" link="Room Conversation -- July 2, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 2, 1976, New Vrindaban">
<div class="heading">Just like every religion has got some condition, monastic, is it not?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 2, 1976, New Vrindaban|Room Conversation -- July 2, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: Says, "Religion: 1. monastic condition, being a monk or a nun, enter into a monastic order; 2. practice of sacred rites; 3. one of the prevalent systems of faith and worship, i.e. Christian, Muhammadan, etc.; 4. human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience, effect of such recognition on conduct and mental attitude."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is religion. Personal conception of God.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: And then "5. action that one is bound to do."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything is there. Any one of them you take. That's good idea, but special conception of personal God, huh? What is that?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "Human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all, clear. What are the other items?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Then, "the effect of such recognition on conduct and mental attitude." And then "action that one is bound to do."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: One is bound to do. Dharmena hina paśubhiḥ samana. If he does not do, then he's animal. It must be done. There is no question of optional. If you are human being, you must be religious, you must recognize the supreme controller. Otherwise, you are animal. What is the other interpretations? Beginning one?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "Monastic condition, being a monk or a nun."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like every religion has got some condition, monastic, is it not?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Yes, every religion has a system of priests.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (Coughs severely for a few minutes) Monastic condition?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "Practice of sacred rites."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So, without reference to God, what is the meaning of sacred rites? Everything is reference that accepting the supreme controller. That is the real meaning. At least, Christian religion accepts God, Muhammadan religion accepts God, or Hindu religion accepts God. So without God, how it can be religion? If there is no understanding of God, the conclusion comes that there is no religion. Fictitious. "We trust in God," but do not know what is God. This is going on. So we have to fight against all this nonsense. Nonsense scientists, nonsense religionists. What do you think? It is not easy-going, sleeping business. We have to fight with so many demons. Otherwise, kava dava adakanam (?), my Guru Mahārāja used to say. Beg some rice and bring it and cook it and eat and sleep.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary91977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay">
<div class="heading">We must. That is the science. You do not know, because your tail is cut you want others also to cut his tail.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay|Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Christ said that if getting everything one loses his own soul... What is that?</p>
<p>Trivikrama: "What is the value?"</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "What is the value?"</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: They would say that we are ignoring this world and retreating from it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We must! We must! You rascal! You do not know the science.</p>
<p>Trivikrama: They have their retreats and monasteries, Christians also.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We must. That is the science. That is... You do not know, because your tail is cut you want others also to cut his tail.</p>
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Latest revision as of 21:46, 15 November 2009

Conversations and Morning Walks

1968 Conversations and Morning Walks

This is monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches.
Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles:

Prabhupāda: Yes. So when your country wanted a certificate for making me permanent resident, so I got a certificate from my Godbrothers that I am initiated. That's all. But otherwise, in our country, there is no necessity of certificate.

Journalist: In other words, there's nothing like going to a seminary in India where you go to a seminary or a monastery and take a course for four years...

Prabhupāda: No, this is monastery. Yes, there is a monastery. We have got institution, Gauḍīya Math Institution. They have got hundreds of branches, yes.

Journalist: You go for a prescribed course of study?

Prabhupāda: Yes, prescribed course of study, these two, three books, that's all. Anyone can read. Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Caitanya-caritāmṛta. You'll learn everything. You haven't got to learn so many huge volumes of books. Because Bhagavad-gītā is such nice book, if you can understand one line, you advance hundred years.

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

Ah, monks.
Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris:

Cardinal Danielou: You know. We are in Christianity monks, monks. We live in monastery.

Prabhupāda: Ah, monks.

Cardinal Danielou: Monastery, yes. With contemplative life and austerity of life. And we have many, many monastery in France. Some Benedict, some Benedict and...

Prabhupāda: Where he has gone to take the water from, Arabian Sea?

He was a little attached to Buddhism?
Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, Dr. Suneson -- September 5, 1973, Stockholm:

Professor: ...Yes. And, I think, he was ill also. He was quite weak.

Paramahaṁsa: When he died, he... Every year he was going to these trips to visit these Buddhist monasteries.

Prabhupāda: He was a little attached to Buddhism?

Paramahaṁsa: Yes, like Śaṅkarācārya, remember, he was...

Prabhupāda: Impersonalist.

Paramahaṁsa: Yes. He was mentioning to you that he thought Śaṅkara's teachings were much more simpler, much more understandable, he said. Than, attractive, he said, than Caitanya Mahāprabhu's. This was his...

Prabhupāda: What is your..

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Morning Walk -- June 15, 1976, Detroit:

Dhṛṣṭadyumna: I lived in one Christian monastery, Śrīla Prabhupāda, before, with monks. There is no bliss. They don't have kīrtana and prasādam.

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Don't say monastery. I'm speaking that this is the way of training. Even a third-class born or fourth-class born could become a first-class man. This training should be given. There must be an institution how to become peaceful, how to become truthful, how to become honest, how to become religious, how to become believer in God.
Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit:

Kern: So this is a development. Saint Ignatius did the same, somewhat. When he began, he sought the leadership. And he sought the intelligent, so that they might do what.... Obviously, you do it also, seeking the leadership that can then teach. We call it sometimes elitism, and this is perhaps a good word for it.

Prabhupāda: So you find out the verse, satyaḥ śamo damas titikṣā, the qualification of brāhmaṇa. Here, it is meant, the first class, second class, third class, fourth class. Yes.

Dhṛṣṭadyumna: "Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness—these are the qualities by which the brāhmaṇas work."

Prabhupāda: This is first class. Again repeat that.

Dhṛṣṭadyumna: "Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness."

Prabhupāda: So why they should not be educated to become first-class men on this basis?

Scheverman: That's right. I would agree that that is a worthy and very important goal.

Prabhupāda: So where is that institution who is teaching these things?

Kern: He said that the monastery did not teach this. I don't know if you can generalize about all monasteries.

Prabhupāda: I don't say monastery. I'm speaking that this is the way of training. Even a third-class born or fourth-class born could become a first-class man. This training should be given. There must be an institution how to become peaceful, how to become truthful, how to become honest, how to become religious, how to become believer in God. Why not this institution? They have opened institutions how to learn to deal the hammer, technology. But if, in the society, there is no first-class man on this basis, then who will guide? If there is no brain, then who will guide the hand or the leg?

Perhaps it was some shock when I said that "What you have not done?"
Conversation in Airport and Car -- June 21, 1976, Toronto:

Prabhupāda: Yes. They are now asking... In Melbourne the priest asked me, "Swamiji, why Christian religion is dwindling? What we have done?" I told them, "What you have not done?" (laughs) They were little insulted.

Hari-śauri: That first time you visited that monastery, the man that was in charge, the head monk there, after you had visited, a short while later he left and he went to India looking for enlightenment.

Prabhupāda: Perhaps it was some shock when I said that "What you have not done?" They received me very well.

Just like every religion has got some condition, monastic, is it not?
Room Conversation -- July 2, 1976, New Vrindaban:

Hari-śauri: Says, "Religion: 1. monastic condition, being a monk or a nun, enter into a monastic order; 2. practice of sacred rites; 3. one of the prevalent systems of faith and worship, i.e. Christian, Muhammadan, etc.; 4. human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience, effect of such recognition on conduct and mental attitude."

Prabhupāda: This is religion. Personal conception of God.

Hari-śauri: And then "5. action that one is bound to do."

Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything is there. Any one of them you take. That's good idea, but special conception of personal God, huh? What is that?

Hari-śauri: "Human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience."

Prabhupāda: That's all, clear. What are the other items?

Hari-śauri: Then, "the effect of such recognition on conduct and mental attitude." And then "action that one is bound to do."

Prabhupāda: One is bound to do. Dharmena hina paśubhiḥ samana. If he does not do, then he's animal. It must be done. There is no question of optional. If you are human being, you must be religious, you must recognize the supreme controller. Otherwise, you are animal. What is the other interpretations? Beginning one?

Hari-śauri: "Monastic condition, being a monk or a nun."

Prabhupāda: Just like every religion has got some condition, monastic, is it not?

Hari-śauri: Yes, every religion has a system of priests.

Prabhupāda: (Coughs severely for a few minutes) Monastic condition?

Hari-śauri: "Practice of sacred rites."

Prabhupāda: So, without reference to God, what is the meaning of sacred rites? Everything is reference that accepting the supreme controller. That is the real meaning. At least, Christian religion accepts God, Muhammadan religion accepts God, or Hindu religion accepts God. So without God, how it can be religion? If there is no understanding of God, the conclusion comes that there is no religion. Fictitious. "We trust in God," but do not know what is God. This is going on. So we have to fight against all this nonsense. Nonsense scientists, nonsense religionists. What do you think? It is not easy-going, sleeping business. We have to fight with so many demons. Otherwise, kava dava adakanam (?), my Guru Mahārāja used to say. Beg some rice and bring it and cook it and eat and sleep.

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

We must. That is the science. You do not know, because your tail is cut you want others also to cut his tail.
Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay:

Prabhupāda: Christ said that if getting everything one loses his own soul... What is that?

Trivikrama: "What is the value?"

Prabhupāda: "What is the value?"

Rāmeśvara: They would say that we are ignoring this world and retreating from it.

Prabhupāda: We must! We must! You rascal! You do not know the science.

Trivikrama: They have their retreats and monasteries, Christians also.

Prabhupāda: We must. That is the science. That is... You do not know, because your tail is cut you want others also to cut his tail.