Prabhupāda: You have to work. Otherwise... This is material world. Without working, you cannot get anything. (break) ...between material world and spiritual world. In the material world you have to work to get your necessities. In the spiritual world there is no need of working. (break)
Rādhā-vallabha: ...talking about the spiritual world is pie in the sky. They say that we should just talk about how to take care of things here.
Prabhupāda: You cannot take care. There are so many problems. You cannot take. You are simply crying, "The problems are there. Problems are there."
Rādhā-vallabha: Then they will say, "Well, how will talking about the spiritual world help solve the problems here in the material world?" (break)
Prabhupāda: ...concerned with the material world, you remain. (break)