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| We are praying to Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa's energy. If we pray to Kṛṣṇa's energy, she is Kṛṣṇa's energy, she will understand, "Now, he is now correct." So she gives facilities. She gives facilities, "Yes, now you can serve Kṛṣṇa. I give you... I give you freedom. You are no more under my clutches." Māyām etāṁ taranti te. Immediately you surrender to Kṛṣṇa, you are immediately liberated. We haven't got to search out liberation separately. Immediately you surrender to Kṛṣṇa, immediately you are liberated—immediately, simultaneous. Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.13|BG 9.13]]). At that time māyā takes another feature. That is called yoga-māyā. The same māyā... Just like the same government laws acting in the prison house differently and acting in the university differently. But the potency is the same. If we take protection of the civil laws, then we are happy. And if we take protection of the criminal laws, then we are unhappy. That's all.
| | Prabhupāda: That's all right. If there is sense . . . If there is sense that Lord Śiva is Kṛṣṇa's part and parcel, then it is all right. But if he thinks Lord Śiva is separate authority, then it is mistake. Kṛṣṇa says . . . What is that ''śloka''? Verse, you recite? ''Ye yathā mām ''. . . |
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| So Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is that you have to take shelter of one of the potencies of Kṛṣṇa. Better take the shelter of spiritual potency. Then you become happy. You cannot be free. That is not possible. Just like you cannot defy the government laws. That is not possible. If you defy civil laws, then you become subjected to the criminal law. You cannot say that "I defy government." That is not possible. Similarly, you cannot defy Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa's potencies. Better you take shelter of Kṛṣṇa's spiritual potency and be happy. Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.13|BG 9.13]]). That is mahātmā, who takes shelter of the spiritual potency of Kṛṣṇa. And what is the sign? Bhajanty ananya-manaso. That is mahātmā. He has no other business than to serve Kṛṣṇa twenty-four hours. Then he is immediately mukta. There is no difficulty.
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| Prabhupāda: There is "I," Kṛṣṇa. There is "I," Kṛṣṇa. If you understand this demigod... Just like this finger. If you understand this finger belongs to Swāmījī, then you are correct. And if you think that this finger is separate power, that is incorrect. This finger is powerful so long attached to the body. And if you cut the finger from the body, it has no power. Similarly, the demigods, if you accept that they are different part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa—there must be relationship with Kṛṣṇa—then it is correct. Just like it is said, sūrya, sūrya upāsanā, that, or durgā upāsanā. These are different upāsanā—sūrya, or pañcopāsanā, durgā upāsanā, sūrya upāsanā, gaṇeśa upāsanā and viṣṇu upāsanā, pañcopāsanā. So how we can worship? Just like Durgā. Durgā is worshiped by the Vaiṣṇava in this way, sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā chāyeva ya... | | Prabhupāda: There is "I," Kṛṣṇa. There is "I," Kṛṣṇa. If you understand this demigod . . . Just like this finger. If you understand this finger belongs to Swāmījī, then you are correct. And if you think that this finger is separate power, that is incorrect. This finger is powerful so long attached to the body. And if you cut the finger from the body, it has no power. Similarly, the demigods, if you accept that they are different part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa—there must be relationship with Kṛṣṇa—then it is correct. Just like it is said, ''sūrya, sūrya upāsanā'', that, or ''durgā upāsanā''. These are different ''upāsanā—sūrya'', or ''pañcopāsanā, durgā upāsanā, sūrya upāsanā, gaṇeśa upāsanā'' and ''viṣṇu upāsanā, pañcopāsanā''. So how we can worship? Just like Durgā. Durgā is worshiped by the Vaiṣṇava in this way, ''sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā chāyeva ya'' . . . (Bs. 5.44). |
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