Prabhupada: Therefore their sons are hippies.
Dayananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: The father is varna-sankara, the son is also.
Hari-sauri: The more vulgar you are, the more glorified you become. Especially like all these film stars and public figures, the more of a drunkard they are, then the more they're publicized in the news.
Prabhupada: Just like John Lennon. He is a public man.
Dayananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: Just see. What he is? He's standing naked and taking photograph. His wife and he, standing naked. I have seen. And that picture is there in his sitting room, fireplace. There is the picture. (laughs) I went to see him. I was his guest. So one day I was... I saw there that big picture on the fireplace. And here is a public... Newspapermen go to him to take his opinion: "What is your opinion?" Just see. What is his value? Nobody. He is public leader because he has got some money. Money is the criterion. Therefore people are accumulating money some way or other. He knows that "If I got money, then I'll have all influence over the society."
Hari-sauri: A rich man, no matter what his morals or character...
Prabhupada: No, nobody cares.
Hari-sauri: ...he becomes very attractive.