Krishna Tiwari: According to our Hindu philosophy, I understand everything has a soul.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Everything. Everybody has a soul.
Krishna Tiwari: Well, that makes me doubtful, because if I go into my laboratory and I can create as many souls as I like. I can breed animals, as many as them I like.
Prabhupāda: You cannot create. The souls are already there. You can find out...
Krishna Tiwari: Well I..., then I'm putting a lot of pressure on God. Every time I make lot of rats, I'm asking for rat souls.
Prabhupāda: Rat has soul, yes.
Krishna Tiwari: I know, but that's... Why, why then I can do it? When I can, or when I want them to be here, they will be here, not on the will of God. According to our concept of soul...
Śyāmasundara: If he's in the laboratory, and he's breeding rats, he's making rats have sex life and have babies, then he is controlling the souls of those rats.
Prabhupāda: He is not controlling. He is controlling the body.
Krishna Tiwari: Well, so body has soul.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Krishna Tiwari: So I'm controlling the soul.
Prabhupāda: No.
Krishna Tiwari: No? I'm making them come.
Prabhupāda: No. You cannot, you can..., you cannot control the soul.
Krishna Tiwari: I understand that.
Prabhupāda: Otherwise... Otherwise, when the soul is gone from the body...
Krishna Tiwari: Yes.
Prabhupāda: ...you could replace one soul.
Krishna Tiwari: Well, that's true. I mean that, I, uh, if you go... But my point is that the rat has a soul, and if God has something to do with the soul, then I should have no control of it.
Prabhupāda: Apart from God. Apart... We're not going to God. Just like here...
Krishna Tiwari: Okay. Let's talk about soul.
Prabhupāda: You are studying the hair. Your point is you're studying... Soul is the part of God, mamaivāṁśo (BG 15.7). God says, "The soul is My part and parcel."
Krishna Tiwari: Yes.