Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Actually at that time we were massaging your heart. It was such a shock to you. And I remember, the only medicine you want... We were massaging your heart and reading Kṛṣṇa book. And you developed a very bad cough.
Prabhupāda: I do not wish to recall that. It was intolerable. Then these things were now brought to... Otherwise I did not like to come back. I would have stayed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ahh. Wow.
Prabhupāda: I made my headquarter in Los Angeles. And they made a conspiracy against me. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I never understood that.
Prabhupāda: Otherwise I made it my own story(?). (pause)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, whatever the reason, by your coming here it was wonderful also.
Prabhupāda: That means Kṛṣṇa desired. Otherwise I had no plan to come back here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your business was in the West. Still it is, you said. Still, whatever we're doing here...
Prabhupāda: Therefore I took this permanent residency.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not intention but... Do you regret having come back to India?
Prabhupāda: No, it is well. My plan was like that, but Kṛṣṇa's plan was different. When I was coming back, I was speaking to Dvārakādhīśa, "I do not know. I came here to live. Why You are driving me away?" While leaving Los Angeles I was not happy.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, I remember.
Prabhupāda: But He had this plan.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Pretty nice plan.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa wanted that "You left Vṛndāvana. I'll give you better place in Vṛndāvana. (chuckles) You were retired in Vṛndāvana. I obliged you to leave. Now you come back. I'll give you better place." So He has given a temple hundred times better than Los Angeles. Is it not?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's nothing comparable in the three worlds.
Prabhupāda: Hm. So it is always by His desire. (break) That conspiracy was... (break) ...also. I did not discuss.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You said that to us.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I gave some hint.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I could understand later on how it... Your hint I could understand more fully. Very subtle.
Prabhupāda: Very.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Anyway, now we're trained to the point where that can never reoccur. Not... Never. That could only happen because we were so new at that time.
Śatadhanya: Due to ignorance.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Took advantage of us. It's like... At first we were mongrel dogs. Now we are a little bit trained to keep away all the disturbers. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...opposition of my constructing a temple in Māyāpur.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: From the very beginning. First you asked for land. That