Indian man (1): In the beginning everybody is foolish. We are born foolish.
Prabhupāda: Well, born foolish, that . . . he has to become intelligent. But when he talks foolishly, he remains foolish.
Indian man (1): Well, so far he is not enlightened.
Prabhupāda: If he talks foolishly, that means he is still foolish. He has not attained any knowledge.
Indian man (6): But after getting the knowledge, then knowledge means when we completely know the Supreme Personality is Lord Kṛṣṇa, then he is all right.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Indian man (6): But those who have got no knowledge about all these things, so they must be worshiping some Devī, Gaṇeśa . . .
Prabhupāda: But why they take the position of a teacher? They should not take the position of a teacher. They should remain foolish that, "I have still to learn."
Indian man (1): Ah, that is the significance. They should not say that, "I have already perfect." That is the thing. They should not claim like that.
Prabhupāda: That is our protest that, "You are a foolish. Why you are taking the position of a teacher? You are foolish. You are rascal. You don't take the position of a teacher. Then you are a cheater. First of all make your life . . ." Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, janma sārthaka kari kara paropakāra (CC Adi 9.41): "First of all make your life successful. Then you become a teacher." Paropakāra. You are a fool number one and you are going to make paropakāra? Daridra-nārāyaṇa. (laughter) (chuckles) (break) . . . when they take the position of teacher, they not only do harm to themselves but to others. So our protest is that, "You are a fool, rascal. You go to hell. Why you induce others to go to hell?"