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<div class="heading">So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti. Māyā could not do anything. Although Māyā came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is māyā—so he was not allured. The... Rather, the veśyā, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.
<div class="heading">So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti. Māyā could not do anything. Although Māyā came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is māyā—so he was not allured. The... Rather, the veśyā, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.32 -- Vrndavana, August 13, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.5.32 -- Vrndavana, August 13, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pradyumna: Translation: "O Brāhmaṇa Vyāsadeva, it is decided by the learned that the best remedial measure for removing all troubles and miseries is to dedicate one's activities to the service of the Supreme Lord Personality of Godhead (Śrī Kṛṣṇa)."</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda:</p>
 
:etat saṁsūcitaṁ brahmaṁs
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:yad īśvare bhagavati
Pradyumna: Translation: "O Brāhmaṇa Vyāsadeva, it is decided by the learned that the best remedial measure for removing all troubles and miseries is to dedicate one's activities to the service of the Supreme Lord Personality of Godhead (Śrī Kṛṣṇa)."
:karma brahmaṇi bhāvitam
 
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Prabhupāda:
<p>Now, in the last verse Nārada Muni says, yena gacchanti tat-padam: "by which one can go back to home, back to Godhead, tat-padam." Padam means abode or position. Position. That is, after liberation, one can get the spiritual position.</p>
 
<p>Sāyujya, sārūpya, sālokya, sārṣṭi, sāmīpya. There are different types of position, although they are all spiritual. The one is the sāyujya-mukti, or to become one with the Supreme, merge into the Supreme. This is one position. Another position: sārūpya, the same feature of the body. Just like Nārāyaṇa, four-handed. In the Vaikuṇṭha planets, the inhabitants, the citizens, they have got four hands. When Ajāmila was delivered by the Viṣṇudūtas, they appeared exactly looking like Viṣṇu. That is described. That is called sārūpya. Sārūpya, sārṣṭi ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 6.266|CC Madhya 6.266]]), same opulence. Or sāmīpya, always near, associate. There are five kinds of... Gacchanti tat-padam. But out of the five, the first one, namely to merge into the existence of the Supreme, that is very dangerous, not safe.</p>
:''etat saṁsūcitaṁ brahmaṁs''
<p>Therefore Vaiṣṇava never accepts sāyujya-mukti, to become one with the Supreme. Because Vaiṣṇava knows that impersonal advancement is risky. They know it perfectly. Therefore a Vaiṣṇava never... Vaiṣṇava is not anxious for any kind of mukti. Dīyamānaṁ na gṛhṇanti. They don't want... Especially Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas, they don't want mukti. They are happy wherever they are existing. If they get the chance of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, that is perfection of life. They don't want anything more. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. We should not imitate, but the position is like that. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He was not at all afraid of this material world. He was very cautious. A spiritualist, a devotee, a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, should be very cautious. But not afraid to meet any dangerous position. But must be cautious. Cautious in this way, that he may not fall down again under the clutches of māyā. This should be, care should be taken.</p>
:''tāpa-traya-cikitsitam''
<p>If we fix up our mind... Mām eva ye prapadyante. If we fix up our śaraṇāgati, surrender to the Supreme, then there is no question of falling down. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti te ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14|BG 7.14]]). Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura was tested once by Māyā, and in another time he was tested by a prostitute to allure him... He was young man. Haridāsa Ṭhākura was very beautiful young man. So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti. Māyā could not do anything. Although Māyā came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is māyā—so he was not allured. The... Rather, the veśyā, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.</p>
:''yad īśvare bhagavati''
<p>That is the resultant action. If one is polluted, if he comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, or Kṛṣṇa's pure devotee, he or she will be purified. Kṛṣṇa is never allured, neither Kṛṣṇa is become a victim of anything material. Kṛṣṇa's position is different. That is stated in the Īśopaniṣad. Apāpa-viddham. Kṛṣṇa is never afflicted by any kind of contamination. He is pūrṇaḥ śuddho nitya-muktaḥ. Similarly, those who are advanced devotees, they are not allured. But the result is that one who comes to allure a devotee or one who comes to allure Kṛṣṇa, he or she becomes purified. He or she. Kamāt krodhād bhayāt. Some way or other, if one comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes purified. Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya ([[Vanisource:SB 10.33.29|SB 10.33.29]]). Apparently, it appears that Kṛṣṇa is dancing with the young girls at dead of night. But it is not that Kṛṣṇa is contaminated. They become purified. On the... Actually, they are eternal associates of Kṛṣṇa, the gopīs. They are not ordinary women. There are all description in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. They were dancing in their spiritual body, not in the material body. They were dancing in their spiritual body. Their material body was lying down with their husband. These are, these descriptions are there in the Bhāgavatam. So gopīs' līlā is not material. So there was no question of contamination. But materially this kind of activities, to dance at dead of night with young girl, that is not permitted. With other's wife. You can dance with your own wife, but you cannot do that. That is sinful.</p>
:''karma brahmaṇi bhāvitam''
<p>So the real business is, as Nārada Muni says, māyānubhāvam, anubhāvam avidam. One should know what is māyā. Yena, after complete knowledge of māyā and Kṛṣṇa, yena gacchanti tat-padam, then one is promoted to the spiritual world. But the promotion... I have already described, there are five kinds of promotion, elevation. Out of that, the one promotion, namely to merge into the existence of the Supreme, that is very dangerous. Dangerous means that is risk of falling down. Because it is not possible to merge into the personal body of Kṛṣṇa. Or you can take the bodily effulgence or the rays of the body. Everything is absolute. (aside:) Who is talking? So merge into the Brahman effulgence, that is also Kṛṣṇa's bodily rays. Yasya prabhā (Bs. 5.40). So we are a small particle. So we, we merge into the Brahman effulgence. Brahman effulgence means collection of so many Brahmans together. That is Brahman effulgence. Unlimited number. Anantyāya kalpate. We are a small particle. Keśāgra-śata-bhāgasya śatadhā kalpitasya ca ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.140|CC Madhya 19.140]]). One ten-thousandth part, a small particle. Just like the sunshine, it is a combination of bright molecules of sunshine.</p>
:([[vanisource:SB 1.5.32|SB 1.5.32]])
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Now, in the last verse Nārada Muni says, ''yena gacchanti tat-padam'': "by which one can go back to home, back to Godhead, ''tat-padam." Padam'' means abode or position. Position, that is, after liberation, one can get the spiritual position: ''sāyujya, sārūpya, sālokya, sārṣṭi, sāmīpya''. There are different types of position, although they are all spiritual. The one is the ''sāyujya-mukti'', or to become one with the Supreme, merge into the Supreme. This is one position. Another position: ''sārūpya'', the same feature of the body just like Nārāyaṇa, four-handed. In the Vaikuṇṭha planets, the inhabitants, the citizens, they have got four hands. When Ajāmila was delivered by the Viṣṇu-sena, they appeared exactly looking like Viṣṇu. That is described. That is called ''sārūpya. Sārūpya, sārṣṭi'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 6.266|CC Madhya 6.266]]), same opulence. Or ''sāmīpya'': always near, associate. There are five kinds of . . . ''gacchanti tat-padam''. But out of the five, the first one, namely to merge into the existence of the Supreme, that is very dangerous, not safe.
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Therefore Vaiṣṇava never accepts ''sāyujya-mukti'', to become one with the Supreme, because Vaiṣṇava knows that impersonal advancement is risky. They know it perfectly. Therefore a Vaiṣṇava never . . . Vaiṣṇava is not anxious for any kind of ''mukti. Dīyamānaṁ na gṛhṇanti'' ([[vanisource:SB 3.29.13|SB 3.29.13]]). They don't want . . . especially Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas, they don't want ''mukti''. They are happy wherever they are existing. If they get the chance of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa ''maha mantra'', that is perfection of life. They don't want anything more. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. We should not imitate, but the position is like that. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He was not at all afraid of this material world. He was very cautious. A spiritualist, a devotee, a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, should be very cautious. But not afraid to meet any dangerous position, but must be cautious—cautious in this way: that he may not fall down again under the clutches of ''māyā''. This should be . . . care should be taken.
 
If we fix up our mind . . . ''mām eva ye prapadyante''. If we fix up our ''śaraṇāgati'', surrender to the Supreme, then there is no question of falling down. ''Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti te'' ([[vanisource:BG 7.14 (1972)|BG 7.14]]). Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura was tested once by ''māyā'', and in another time he was tested by a prostitute to allure him . . . he was young man. Haridāsa Ṭhākura was very beautiful young man. So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story, that is stated in the ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta''. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. ''Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti''. ''māyā'' could not do anything. Although ''māyā'' came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is ''māyā''—so he was not allured. The . . . rather, the ''veśyā'', or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.
 
That is the resultant action. If one is polluted, if he comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, or Kṛṣṇa's pure devotee, he or she will be purified. Kṛṣṇa is never allured, neither Kṛṣṇa is become a victim of anything material. Kṛṣṇa's position is different. That is stated in the ''Īśopaniṣad, apāpa-viddham''. Kṛṣṇa is never afflicted by any kind of contamination. He is ''pūrṇaḥ śuddho nitya-muktaḥ''. Similarly, those who are advanced devotees, they are not allured. But the result is that one who comes to allure a devotee or one who comes to allure Kṛṣṇa, he or she becomes purified. He or she. ''Kamāt krodhād bhayāt''. Some way or other, if one comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes purified. ''Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya'' ([[vanisource:SB 10.33.29|SB 10.33.29]]). Apparently it appears that Kṛṣṇa is dancing with the young girls, dead of night. But it is not that Kṛṣṇa is contaminated. They become purified. On the . . . actually, they are eternal associates of Kṛṣṇa, the ''gopīs''. They are not ordinary women. There are all description in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''. They were dancing in their spiritual body, not in the material body. They were dancing in their spiritual body. Their spiritual (material) body was lying down with their husband. These are . . . these descriptions are there in the ''Bhāgavatam''. So ''gopīs' līlā'' is not material. So there is no question of contamination. But materially this kind of activities, to dance at dead of night with young girl, that is not permitted—with other's wife. You can dance with your own wife, but you cannot do that. That is sinful.

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Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti. Māyā could not do anything. Although Māyā came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is māyā—so he was not allured. The... Rather, the veśyā, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.


Lecture on SB 1.5.32 -- Vrndavana, August 13, 1974:

Pradyumna: Translation: "O Brāhmaṇa Vyāsadeva, it is decided by the learned that the best remedial measure for removing all troubles and miseries is to dedicate one's activities to the service of the Supreme Lord Personality of Godhead (Śrī Kṛṣṇa)."

Prabhupāda:

etat saṁsūcitaṁ brahmaṁs
tāpa-traya-cikitsitam
yad īśvare bhagavati
karma brahmaṇi bhāvitam
(SB 1.5.32)

Now, in the last verse Nārada Muni says, yena gacchanti tat-padam: "by which one can go back to home, back to Godhead, tat-padam." Padam means abode or position. Position, that is, after liberation, one can get the spiritual position: sāyujya, sārūpya, sālokya, sārṣṭi, sāmīpya. There are different types of position, although they are all spiritual. The one is the sāyujya-mukti, or to become one with the Supreme, merge into the Supreme. This is one position. Another position: sārūpya, the same feature of the body just like Nārāyaṇa, four-handed. In the Vaikuṇṭha planets, the inhabitants, the citizens, they have got four hands. When Ajāmila was delivered by the Viṣṇu-sena, they appeared exactly looking like Viṣṇu. That is described. That is called sārūpya. Sārūpya, sārṣṭi (CC Madhya 6.266), same opulence. Or sāmīpya: always near, associate. There are five kinds of . . . gacchanti tat-padam. But out of the five, the first one, namely to merge into the existence of the Supreme, that is very dangerous, not safe.

Therefore Vaiṣṇava never accepts sāyujya-mukti, to become one with the Supreme, because Vaiṣṇava knows that impersonal advancement is risky. They know it perfectly. Therefore a Vaiṣṇava never . . . Vaiṣṇava is not anxious for any kind of mukti. Dīyamānaṁ na gṛhṇanti (SB 3.29.13). They don't want . . . especially Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas, they don't want mukti. They are happy wherever they are existing. If they get the chance of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa maha mantra, that is perfection of life. They don't want anything more. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. We should not imitate, but the position is like that. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He was not at all afraid of this material world. He was very cautious. A spiritualist, a devotee, a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, should be very cautious. But not afraid to meet any dangerous position, but must be cautious—cautious in this way: that he may not fall down again under the clutches of māyā. This should be . . . care should be taken.

If we fix up our mind . . . mām eva ye prapadyante. If we fix up our śaraṇāgati, surrender to the Supreme, then there is no question of falling down. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti te (BG 7.14). Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura was tested once by māyā, and in another time he was tested by a prostitute to allure him . . . he was young man. Haridāsa Ṭhākura was very beautiful young man. So under diplomacy of Rāmacandra Khān he was to be entrapped. You know the story, that is stated in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. But Haridāsa Ṭhākura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti. māyā could not do anything. Although māyā came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words—this is māyāso he was not allured. The . . . rather, the veśyā, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaiṣṇavī.

That is the resultant action. If one is polluted, if he comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, or Kṛṣṇa's pure devotee, he or she will be purified. Kṛṣṇa is never allured, neither Kṛṣṇa is become a victim of anything material. Kṛṣṇa's position is different. That is stated in the Īśopaniṣad, apāpa-viddham. Kṛṣṇa is never afflicted by any kind of contamination. He is pūrṇaḥ śuddho nitya-muktaḥ. Similarly, those who are advanced devotees, they are not allured. But the result is that one who comes to allure a devotee or one who comes to allure Kṛṣṇa, he or she becomes purified. He or she. Kamāt krodhād bhayāt. Some way or other, if one comes in contact with Kṛṣṇa, then he becomes purified. Tejīyasāṁ na doṣāya (SB 10.33.29). Apparently it appears that Kṛṣṇa is dancing with the young girls, dead of night. But it is not that Kṛṣṇa is contaminated. They become purified. On the . . . actually, they are eternal associates of Kṛṣṇa, the gopīs. They are not ordinary women. There are all description in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. They were dancing in their spiritual body, not in the material body. They were dancing in their spiritual body. Their spiritual (material) body was lying down with their husband. These are . . . these descriptions are there in the Bhāgavatam. So gopīs' līlā is not material. So there is no question of contamination. But materially this kind of activities, to dance at dead of night with young girl, that is not permitted—with other's wife. You can dance with your own wife, but you cannot do that. That is sinful.