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| <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | | <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> |
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| <div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3> | | <div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3> |
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| <div id="LectureonBG327MadrasJanuary11976_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="128" link="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976"> | | <div id="LectureonBG327MadrasJanuary11976_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="128" link="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976"> |
| <div class="heading">As it is described in the English dictionary, religion means a kind of faith. But Kṛṣṇaism is not that type of religion. It is a compulsory fact. | | <div class="heading">As it is described in the English dictionary, religion means a kind of faith. But Kṛṣṇaism is not that type of religion. It is a compulsory fact. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976|Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is Kṛṣṇaism. (aside) What is this? Stopped? (break)</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976|Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Madras, January 1, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is Kṛṣṇaism. (aside) What is this? Stopped? (break)</p> |
| <p>Hinduism means a type of faith, or Muslimism is type of faith. But... As it is described in the English dictionary, religion means a kind of faith. But it is not that type of religion. It is a compulsory fact. Just like sugar is, compulsorily must become, sweet. If sugar is not sweet, that is not real sugar. Chili is not hot; that is not real chili. Similarly, we are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Our duty is to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. There is no question of faith. It is not the question of faith. You may have faith in Hinduism; tomorrow you may have faith in Christianism. Or you may have faith in Christianism, tomorrow in Mohammedan. This kind of faith is not Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is a compulsory. Just like laws of the state. It is not that it is meant for the Hindus, or for the Muslims, for the Christian. It is meant for everyone.</p> | | <p>Hinduism means a type of faith, or Muslimism is type of faith. But... As it is described in the English dictionary, religion means a kind of faith. But it is not that type of religion. It is a compulsory fact. Just like sugar is, compulsorily must become, sweet. If sugar is not sweet, that is not real sugar. Chili is not hot; that is not real chili. Similarly, we are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Our duty is to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. There is no question of faith. It is not the question of faith. You may have faith in Hinduism; tomorrow you may have faith in Christianism. Or you may have faith in Christianism, tomorrow in Mohammedan. This kind of faith is not Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is a compulsory. Just like laws of the state. It is not that it is meant for the Hindus, or for the Muslims, for the Christian. It is meant for everyone.</p> |
| <p>Similarly, mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7|BG 15.7]]). We are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, so it is compulsory to revive our consciousness that we are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. It is not a question of faith. Faith you may accept or do not accept but here it is a question of "must." You must revive your Kṛṣṇa consciousness; otherwise you will suffer.</p> | | <p>Similarly, mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]). We are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, so it is compulsory to revive our consciousness that we are part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. It is not a question of faith. Faith you may accept or do not accept but here it is a question of "must." You must revive your Kṛṣṇa consciousness; otherwise you will suffer.</p> |
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| <div id="LectureonBG468NewYorkJuly201966_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="143" link="Lecture on BG 4.6-8 -- New York, July 20, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.6-8 -- New York, July 20, 1966"> | | <div id="LectureonBG468NewYorkJuly201966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="143" link="Lecture on BG 4.6-8 -- New York, July 20, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.6-8 -- New York, July 20, 1966"> |
| <div class="heading">So religion, so far English dictionary is concerned, it is described as a matter of faith. But the word dharma, it is not exactly the same meaning, faith. | | <div class="heading">So religion, so far English dictionary is concerned, it is described as a matter of faith. But the word dharma, it is not exactly the same meaning, faith. |
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| <div id="LectureonBG713StockholmSeptember101973_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="253" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- Stockholm, September 10, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- Stockholm, September 10, 1973"> | | <div id="LectureonBG713StockholmSeptember101973_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="253" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- Stockholm, September 10, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- Stockholm, September 10, 1973"> |
| <div class="heading">Religion means a kind of faith. This religion is not faith. It is a science. | | <div class="heading">Religion means a kind of faith. This religion is not faith. It is a science. |
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| <div id="LectureonBG92MelbourneApril201976_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="302" link="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Melbourne, April 20, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Melbourne, April 20, 1976"> | | <div id="LectureonBG92MelbourneApril201976_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="302" link="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Melbourne, April 20, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Melbourne, April 20, 1976"> |
| <div class="heading">Generally in the English dharma is translated by the word religion, a kind of faith. But actually dharma means the characteristic. | | <div class="heading">Generally in the English dharma is translated by the word religion, a kind of faith. But actually dharma means the characteristic. |
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| <div id="LectureonBG133HyderabadApril191974_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="348" link="Lecture on BG 13.3 -- Hyderabad, April 19, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.3 -- Hyderabad, April 19, 1974"> | | <div id="LectureonBG133HyderabadApril191974_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="348" link="Lecture on BG 13.3 -- Hyderabad, April 19, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.3 -- Hyderabad, April 19, 1974"> |
| <div class="heading">The meaning of religion in the English dictionary is different from what we mean by religion, that in the dictionary it is said, "Religion is a kind of faith." Faith may be wrong or right, but religion cannot be wrong or right. Religion must be correct. That is the meaning of religion. | | <div class="heading">The meaning of religion in the English dictionary is different from what we mean by religion, that in the dictionary it is said, "Religion is a kind of faith." Faith may be wrong or right, but religion cannot be wrong or right. Religion must be correct. That is the meaning of religion. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.2 -- Caracas, February 23, 1975|Lecture on SB 1.1.2 -- Caracas, February 23, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So if we say that "I have no faith in the orders of the material nature. I avoid it," that is not possible. So therefore this dharma means you may have faith or may not have faith; you have to abide by the laws of nature. People therefore say, "As sure as death." I may think or you may think that "Don't care for death. There will be no death," but it will happen. Therefore the conclusion is that you cannot manufacture any laws of religion.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.2 -- Caracas, February 23, 1975|Lecture on SB 1.1.2 -- Caracas, February 23, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So if we say that "I have no faith in the orders of the material nature. I avoid it," that is not possible. So therefore this dharma means you may have faith or may not have faith; you have to abide by the laws of nature. People therefore say, "As sure as death." I may think or you may think that "Don't care for death. There will be no death," but it will happen. Therefore the conclusion is that you cannot manufacture any laws of religion.</p> |
| <p>Man-made religion has no value. So man-made religions, there are so many religious system, the Hindu religion, Christian religion, Mohammedan religion or this religion, that religion. That is a kind of faith. But religion means the order or the laws given by God. Therefore here it is said, dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavaḥ atra. Kaitavaḥ means cheating type of religious system. Real religion means "God is there. I am there. God is great. I am subordinate. I must abide by the laws of God." This is religion. At the present moment, under the spell of illusion in this material condition, we have forgotten our real religion. Real religion means to revive our consciousness—we say, "Kṛṣṇa consciousness"—or God consciousness, by which we agree to abide by the laws of God. So Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā at the end, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]). He says that "You have manufactured so many religious system. So you give up all these. You simply surrender unto Me." Therefore real conclusion is, real religion means, to surrender unto God.</p> | | <p>Man-made religion has no value. So man-made religions, there are so many religious system, the Hindu religion, Christian religion, Mohammedan religion or this religion, that religion. That is a kind of faith. But religion means the order or the laws given by God. Therefore here it is said, dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavaḥ atra. Kaitavaḥ means cheating type of religious system. Real religion means "God is there. I am there. God is great. I am subordinate. I must abide by the laws of God." This is religion. At the present moment, under the spell of illusion in this material condition, we have forgotten our real religion. Real religion means to revive our consciousness—we say, "Kṛṣṇa consciousness"—or God consciousness, by which we agree to abide by the laws of God. So Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā at the end, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). He says that "You have manufactured so many religious system. So you give up all these. You simply surrender unto Me." Therefore real conclusion is, real religion means, to surrender unto God.</p> |
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| <div class="heading">Religion is a kind of faith. That they describe. But religion is also not a blind faith. Religion means the order of God. That is religion. | | <div class="heading">Religion is a kind of faith. That they describe. But religion is also not a blind faith. Religion means the order of God. That is religion. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Talk -- Aligarh, October 9, 1976|Arrival Talk -- Aligarh, October 9, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When we say that dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā... ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). So as this boy, he was a child, now he has become a boy, then after few years he'll become a young man. And then he'll become middle-aged man, then he'll become old man. So this is not our religion, your religion. This is fact. Scientific. When Bhagavad-gītā says dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, that is not meant for the so-called Hindus. It is meant for the Muslims, meant for the Christians, everyone. It is science. Religion is a kind of faith. That they describe. But religion is also not a blind faith. Religion means the order of God. That is religion. Dharmaṁ tu sākṣād bhagavat-praṇītam ([[Vanisource:SB 6.3.19|SB 6.3.19]]). Just like law means the order of the state. Similarly, religion means the order of God. So if you have no conception of God, if you do not know what is God, what is order, then where is religion? It is all bogus.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Talk -- Aligarh, October 9, 1976|Arrival Talk -- Aligarh, October 9, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When we say that dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā... ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). So as this boy, he was a child, now he has become a boy, then after few years he'll become a young man. And then he'll become middle-aged man, then he'll become old man. So this is not our religion, your religion. This is fact. Scientific. When Bhagavad-gītā says dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, that is not meant for the so-called Hindus. It is meant for the Muslims, meant for the Christians, everyone. It is science. Religion is a kind of faith. That they describe. But religion is also not a blind faith. Religion means the order of God. That is religion. Dharmaṁ tu sākṣād bhagavat-praṇītam ([[Vanisource:SB 6.3.19|SB 6.3.19]]). Just like law means the order of the state. Similarly, religion means the order of God. So if you have no conception of God, if you do not know what is God, what is order, then where is religion? It is all bogus.</p> |
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| <div id="LectureatWaysideChapelSydneyMay131971_3" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="85" link="Lecture at Wayside Chapel -- Sydney, May 13, 1971" link_text="Lecture at Wayside Chapel -- Sydney, May 13, 1971"> | | <div id="LectureatWaysideChapelSydneyMay131971_2" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="85" link="Lecture at Wayside Chapel -- Sydney, May 13, 1971" link_text="Lecture at Wayside Chapel -- Sydney, May 13, 1971"> |
| <div class="heading">As you generally understand in the Western countries, the word religion is used as "a kind of faith." Faith you can change. Today you are Christian; tomorrow you can become Hindu. But religion cannot be changed. | | <div class="heading">As you generally understand in the Western countries, the word religion is used as "a kind of faith." Faith you can change. Today you are Christian; tomorrow you can become Hindu. But religion cannot be changed. |
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| <div id="LectureTokyoApril291972withinterpreter_4" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="113" link="Lecture -- Tokyo, April 29, 1972, (with interpreter)" link_text="Lecture -- Tokyo, April 29, 1972, (with interpreter)"> | | <div id="LectureTokyoApril291972withinterpreter_3" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="113" link="Lecture -- Tokyo, April 29, 1972, (with interpreter)" link_text="Lecture -- Tokyo, April 29, 1972, (with interpreter)"> |
| <div class="heading">So religion is a kind of faith, but faith can be changed. But the knowledge which is essential in life, that cannot be changed. Therefore this culture, although it appears like a religious system, but it is the essential knowledge of life. | | <div class="heading">So religion is a kind of faith, but faith can be changed. But the knowledge which is essential in life, that cannot be changed. Therefore this culture, although it appears like a religious system, but it is the essential knowledge of life. |
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| <div id="LectureLondonJuly121972_5" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="120" link="Lecture -- London, July 12, 1972" link_text="Lecture -- London, July 12, 1972"> | | <div id="LectureLondonJuly121972_4" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="120" link="Lecture -- London, July 12, 1972" link_text="Lecture -- London, July 12, 1972"> |
| <div class="heading">So "religion," this English word, is not sufficient translation of the word dharma. According to English language, religion means a kind of faith. But a dharma does not mean like that. | | <div class="heading">So "religion," this English word, is not sufficient translation of the word dharma. According to English language, religion means a kind of faith. But a dharma does not mean like that. |
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| <div id="RotaryClubLectureAhmedabadDecember81972ThePresentNeedofHumanSociety_6" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="125" link="Rotary Club Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972 'The Present Need of Human Society'" link_text="Rotary Club Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972 'The Present Need of Human Society'"> | | <div id="RotaryClubLectureAhmedabadDecember81972ThePresentNeedofHumanSociety_5" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="125" link="Rotary Club Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972 'The Present Need of Human Society'" link_text="Rotary Club Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972 'The Present Need of Human Society'"> |
| <div class="heading">Religion does not mean a kind of faith. Religion, as I, I think, the other day I described here, the characteristic, the characteristic of the human being, of the living being—to serve. | | <div class="heading">Religion does not mean a kind of faith. Religion, as I, I think, the other day I described here, the characteristic, the characteristic of the human being, of the living being—to serve. |
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| <div id="PandalLectureBombayJanuary141973_7" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="126" link="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 14, 1973" link_text="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 14, 1973"> | | <div id="PandalLectureBombayJanuary141973_6" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="126" link="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 14, 1973" link_text="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 14, 1973"> |
| <div class="heading">Dharma generally in English is translated: "religion." Religion means a kind of faith, "I believe in such and such faith"—"I believe in the Muhammadan faith," "I believe in Christian faith," "I believe in Buddha faith." But actually, dharma does not mean faith. | | <div class="heading">Dharma generally in English is translated: "religion." Religion means a kind of faith, "I believe in such and such faith"—"I believe in the Muhammadan faith," "I believe in Christian faith," "I believe in Buddha faith." But actually, dharma does not mean faith. |
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| <div id="LectureLondonAugust231973_8" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="138" link="Lecture -- London, August 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture -- London, August 23, 1973"> | | <div id="LectureLondonAugust231973_7" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="138" link="Lecture -- London, August 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture -- London, August 23, 1973"> |
| <div class="heading">Religion is accepted as a kind of faith. But faith may be wrong or right—according to the different time, persons, climate, condition, so many consideration. But Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam says dharma, or religion, means the law given by God. | | <div class="heading">Religion is accepted as a kind of faith. But faith may be wrong or right—according to the different time, persons, climate, condition, so many consideration. But Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam says dharma, or religion, means the law given by God. |
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| <div id="LectureatStPascalsFranciscanSeminaryMelbourneJune281974_9" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="151" link="Lecture at St. Pascal's Franciscan Seminary -- Melbourne, June 28, 1974" link_text="Lecture at St. Pascal's Franciscan Seminary -- Melbourne, June 28, 1974"> | | <div id="LectureatStPascalsFranciscanSeminaryMelbourneJune281974_8" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="151" link="Lecture at St. Pascal's Franciscan Seminary -- Melbourne, June 28, 1974" link_text="Lecture at St. Pascal's Franciscan Seminary -- Melbourne, June 28, 1974"> |
| <div class="heading">In the dictionary it is said, "Religion is a kind of faith." No. It is a permanent, I mean to say, arrangement. It is not the faith. Faith we can change. | | <div class="heading">In the dictionary it is said, "Religion is a kind of faith." No. It is a permanent, I mean to say, arrangement. It is not the faith. Faith we can change. |
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, it is cultural movement, educational movement. It is not so-called religious movement. Religious movement is sentiment. Generally religion is taken as a kind of faith, but it is not a kind of faith. In.... I think, in South America that Indian man was asking that "It is the Hindu faith?"</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, it is cultural movement, educational movement. It is not so-called religious movement. Religious movement is sentiment. Generally religion is taken as a kind of faith, but it is not a kind of faith. In.... I think, in South America that Indian man was asking that "It is the Hindu faith?"</p> |
| <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, in South Africa. He was asking, "Is this Hindu faith?" "This cult or that cult."</p> | | <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, in South Africa. He was asking, "Is this Hindu faith?" "This cult or that cult."</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: So just see. He was Hindu gentleman, belonging to the Arya-samaj. So three times he said, "Is it Hindu faith?" And what do you mean by Hindu faith? When Kṛṣṇa said, dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]), is it meant for the Hindus that a child becomes..., a baby becomes a child, a child becomes a boy, a boy becomes a young man, a young man becomes an old man, and the old man dies, changes this body? Is it meant for the Hindus? The Mohammedans do not become old men or young men?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: So just see. He was Hindu gentleman, belonging to the Arya-samaj. So three times he said, "Is it Hindu faith?" And what do you mean by Hindu faith? When Kṛṣṇa said, dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]), is it meant for the Hindus that a child becomes..., a baby becomes a child, a child becomes a boy, a boy becomes a young man, a young man becomes an old man, and the old man dies, changes this body? Is it meant for the Hindus? The Mohammedans do not become old men or young men?</p> |
| <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The Christians don't become old men?</p> | | <p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The Christians don't become old men?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: So such fools there are that Bhagavad-gītā is speaking, tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]])—"It is meant for the Hindus." Just see. Such fools there are.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: So such fools there are that Bhagavad-gītā is speaking, tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]])—"It is meant for the Hindus." Just see. Such fools there are.</p> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Brian Singer: Who made the decision for Arjuna to fight or not to fight?</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Brian Singer: Who made the decision for Arjuna to fight or not to fight?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: That you'll understand when you actually understand yourself. You do not understand yourself. You cannot understand why Kṛṣṇa said that "You fight." First of all understand yourself. That is the first instruction the Arjuna was given, that the.... Dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). He's not teaching how to fight. He's teaching the philosophy. Try to understand the, I mean, step by step. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a scientific movement. It is not a religious faith. That is not. The beginning is that as the child grows to become a boy and boy grows to become a young man.... This is scientific. It is not the question of religion. It is religion.... According to Sanskrit, the dharma, the word dharma, that is translated into "religion," and religion means a kind of faith. But it is not like that. It is a science to understand your real identification.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: That you'll understand when you actually understand yourself. You do not understand yourself. You cannot understand why Kṛṣṇa said that "You fight." First of all understand yourself. That is the first instruction the Arjuna was given, that the.... Dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). He's not teaching how to fight. He's teaching the philosophy. Try to understand the, I mean, step by step. So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a scientific movement. It is not a religious faith. That is not. The beginning is that as the child grows to become a boy and boy grows to become a young man.... This is scientific. It is not the question of religion. It is religion.... According to Sanskrit, the dharma, the word dharma, that is translated into "religion," and religion means a kind of faith. But it is not like that. It is a science to understand your real identification.</p> |
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Again why you are bringing "secular India"? This is a science. Science, science, scientific knowledge—so does it mean the secular India, they should stop scientific education?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Again why you are bringing "secular India"? This is a science. Science, science, scientific knowledge—so does it mean the secular India, they should stop scientific education?</p> |
| <p>Guest (1): No religion can be backed up like that.</p> | | <p>Guest (1): No religion can be backed up like that.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: No, why you bring religion at all? It is science. Religion is a kind of faith. But science is not faith. You may have faith or may not have faith. Science, "Two plus two equal to four," everywhere. Why they forget this? This is a science, vijñāna. Jñānaṁ te 'haṁ sa-vijñānaṁ idaṁ vakṣyāmy aśeṣataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.2|BG 7.2]]). It is vijñāna. And they are interpreting in different way, "Two plus two equal five." Big, big men, they are doing that. Two plus two equal five because somebody, some big man has said? This is going on. Somebody said, "Two plus two equal to three"; somebody says "Two plus two equal five." "In my opinion it is five." And somebody: "In my opinion it is three." What is this nonsense? This is going on. And they are big men. They are leaders, mūḍha. This is the position of India.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: No, why you bring religion at all? It is science. Religion is a kind of faith. But science is not faith. You may have faith or may not have faith. Science, "Two plus two equal to four," everywhere. Why they forget this? This is a science, vijñāna. Jñānaṁ te 'haṁ sa-vijñānaṁ idaṁ vakṣyāmy aśeṣataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.2 (1972)|BG 7.2]]). It is vijñāna. And they are interpreting in different way, "Two plus two equal five." Big, big men, they are doing that. Two plus two equal five because somebody, some big man has said? This is going on. Somebody said, "Two plus two equal to three"; somebody says "Two plus two equal five." "In my opinion it is five." And somebody: "In my opinion it is three." What is this nonsense? This is going on. And they are big men. They are leaders, mūḍha. This is the position of India.</p> |
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