Pradyumna: Is there a difference in the quality of service between a person who is, just accepts outright Kṛṣṇa, service to Kṛṣṇa, and one who wants to scrutinize and inquire more and more about it, between someone who just accepts, "That's it, this and this," and someone who inquires more and more?
Prabhupāda: One who loves Kṛṣṇa without inquiry, that is nice position. To inquire about Kṛṣṇa is knowledge. And pure devotion is transcendental to knowledge. Love does not depend on the greatness. If a boy loves a girl or the girl loves a boy, even in this material field, it does not depend on the greatness of the boy. Of course, here everything is on material consideration. But actual love is without any consideration, what He is or what He isn't. That is real love. That is the perfectional stage of love, without inquiring how great He is or what He is. But for the neophytes it is necessary to know about Kṛṣṇa. Because we have no love, so if we understand that Kṛṣṇa is so great, then gradually we can love. Our position is different because when... Therefore Caitanya-caritāmṛta, it is said that siddhānta boliya citte na kara ālasa: "Try to understand about Kṛṣṇa." Just like Kṛṣṇa is explaining in Bhagavad-gītā that "I am this amongst the trees. I am this. I am this planet. Amongst this, I am this. I am this." So just to impress upon the neophyte devotees about the greatness... And those who are advanced devotees, they do not want to see whether Kṛṣṇa is great or small. They simply love Him. That's all. That is pure love. In Vṛndāvana, at least these gopīs, they never saw Kṛṣṇa's any jugglery or any greatness. But they still love, pure love.Neophyte devotees (Conversations)
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|"neophyte devotees"
|"devotees who are neophyte"
|"neophyte and an advanced devotee"
|"neophyte and an intermediate devotee"
|"second class and neophyte"
|"neophyte or third-class devotee"
|"neophyte fruitive devotees"
|"neophyte Vaisnava devotees"
Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
Candanacarya: ...to know something about Kṛṣṇa. (indistinct) I think you have to know something about Kṛṣṇa before you know Him to love Him.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That I explained. For ordinary neophyte devotees... This is the highest stage. The stage of the gopīs or the cowherd boys playing with Kṛṣṇa, oh, they are kṛta-punya-puñjāḥ. Many, many lives they have undergone many types of sacrifices, austerities, penances, and then they have come to that stage. That stage is not ordinary stage.1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Makhanlāl: There are many different levels of pure devotional service?
Prabhupāda: Pure devotional service is one. So long you are not on the pure platform, there are many. [break]
Makhanlāl: ...between the neophyte devotee who is following the principles.
Prabhupāda: Neophyte devotee is not on the topmost platform. He's learning. (loud foghorn blowing in background)
Makhanlāl: So a neophyte devotee who's following the principles of sādhana-bhakti is still considered pure devotee?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Makhanlāl: So at different levels of advancement of pure devotional service.Page Title: | Neophyte devotees (Conversations) |
Compiler: | Visnu Murti, ChrisF |
Created: | 16 of Dec, 2008 |
Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=4, Let=0 |
No. of Quotes: | 4 |