Prabhupada: ...flowers, fruits, and temperature is changing. It is rotating. Very fixed up, very timely. How can you say there is no control? How can you say? The animals cannot say, but any human being can say, "Yes, there is control. Otherwise how things are going on like this?" (break) ...convince him there is surely controller. Convince him. (break) ...to beginning of this chapter that there is no controller. Asatyam jagad ahur anisvaram (BG 16.8). Where is that verse, find out. Jagad ahur anisvaram.
Nitai: It's text 8.
Prabhupada: Ah. What does it say?
Nitai: It says:
asatyam apratistham te jagad ahur anisvaram aparaspara-sambhutam kim anyat kama-haitukam (BG 16.8)
Prabhupada: Translation.
Nitai: "They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire and has no cause other than lust."
Prabhupada: They think, the asura... That is the distinction between asura and sura. The asura will say, "There is no control." Anisvaram. Isvaram means controller; anisvaram means without any controller. Then how it has come into existence, how it is working so nicely? So they answer it: kama-haitukam. Kama-haitukam means just like a man and woman mix together, then there is sex desire and there is a production of child. There is no question of controlling. It is timely interaction of different elements. This is called kama-haitukam. So... What is that other? Asatyam...