Prabhupāda: No "many." This is the general process.
Guest (1): No, general process sometimes have failed.
Prabhupāda: No, why fail? The schools are going on. Colleges are going on.
Guest (1): Therefore they are fearing also...
Prabhupāda: Still, they are not closed.
Guest (1): Closed... Today they are coming to that.
Prabhupāda: That is another theory. But the process is, our Vedic process, tad-vijñānārtham sa gurum eva abhigacchet: (MU 1.2.12) "In order to understand tat knowledge one must approach a spiritual master." Gacchet. If you don't accept these principles, then how you can make progress? Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsur śreya uttamam (SB 11.3.21). If you don't accept this principle, there is no possibility. Then you can go on thinking in your own way. There is no question of going to anyone. You make yourself perfect by thinking, as many others are doing, speculating. That is possible but never to the perfectional point.
Guest (1): Perfectly, you see... What is the category of different perfection?
Prabhupāda: That you have to learn. That you have to learn.