Prabhupāda: (looking at surfboard) What it is made of, this surfer?
Sudāmā: It's made of Styrofoam. It's a plastic material that's very light and floats on the water. And then different polishing plastics.
Prabhupāda: So it is a costly thing.
Sudāmā: They cost about close to a hundred dollars.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Bali-mardana: Gaurasundara and Siddha-svarūpa, they were encouraging the devotees to go and fly on them.
Sudāmā: Many of them have them, have these boards.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Sudāmā: Many of them have such boards.
Bali-mardana: Instead of book distribution, they go in the ocean. (break) Is it a good idea for them to go to Māyāpur and chant?
Prabhupāda: Where is that difficulty?
Bali-mardana: Well, like, someone like Karandhara. He suggested for him to go there.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But if he does not chant, that will be bad example. If he does not agree, then it is fallen down. Now he's denying to chant. He's denying to chant; he's indulging in sex. What does it mean? He'll be a bad example wherever he goes.
Bali-mardana: Is that an example of free will, that someone can choose Kṛṣṇa and then turn away? That example of free will?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? Kṛṣṇa says, satataṁ kīrtayanto mām: "Always chanting about Me." That is mahātmā. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ (BG 9.13): "Mahātmā, those who are devotee, they are not under this material influence." Daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ: "the spiritual influence." So how he's accepted Kṛṣṇa? By his own concoction? He . . . if he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of the Kṛṣṇa. (break)