Prabhupāda: Nobody can. I have seen in Los Angeles. (pause) The water is not very clean. (ducks quacking) We are afraid of water; they're enjoying. (pause) Here we have got gold, copper, somewhere in the mines, but in the sky there are millions of miles land of copper, gold.
Amogha: Do you mean other planets, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Big, big planets, millions of miles. (pause)
Amogha: Śrīla Prabhupāda? When a spirit soul first falls from the spiritual sky into the material world, does he first go to the lowest of the 8,400,000 species of life, and then gradually come up, or can he fall to the middle or anywhere?
Prabhupāda: According to his desire. In the beginning it is not so fall down.