Prabhupāda: Yes. They have created.
Indian man (3): Nobody else is doing for him, but he created himself.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man (3): And then he said, "I am in misery. I am in trouble." Trouble is created by you. Nobody has created.
Prabhupāda: So that is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, that mind is the enemy and mind is the friend. So we created our mind, enemy or friend, and we suffer for that.
Indian man (3): Mind is very, very powerful. How to make use of that? Actually mind is using the man; man is not using his mind.
Prabhupāda: In the Bhāgavata it is said, yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcana sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate surāḥ. In another line...