Justin Murphy: Does it matter how long it might take you? Can you become first-class men soon, within five years?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, sufficient, sufficient. We can make in one year.
Justin Murphy: Really. I wish you all well. Well, I hope I won't give you offense if I look at my watch and say that...
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is a very important matter. If you do not spare time, that is your business, but... (laughs)
Justin Murphy: I'm afraid my life is one of these selfish lives. It's a life that's dominated by...
Prabhupāda: No, it is natural, just natural. Just like why first-class men required in society? Just like in your body there is first-class part, second-class part, third-class part, and fourth-class part. Just like your head is the first-class part of your body. If your head is cut off, then everything is finished.
Justin Murphy: True.
Prabhupāda: Similarly, if in the society, if we don't create first-class men, that society is dead. That society is dead. So at the present moment there is no first-class men according to this word. Therefore there is chaotic condition, problems, and so on, so on, so on. So unless you create at least a few percentage of the people first-class men according to this standard, there cannot be any progress. This is my last word to you.
Justin Murphy: Thank you. I wish you all well, and maybe I should think along those lines myself. It's been most interesting talking to you.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is necessary to create a class of men first class, ideal. And if you all create fourth-class men, then there cannot be peace. It is not possible.
Justin Murphy: Thank you.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Justin Murphy: Excellent talking to you. Thank you very much and I wish you well in Melbourne and then in Hawaii?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Fiji and Hawaii. You can keep his address. He may talk with you.
Śrutakīrti: Here is a sweet we have made from milk product.
Justin Murphy: Thank you. Good night.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (break)