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<div class="heading">It takes one second.
<div class="heading">It takes one second. Yes. You accept, surrender to God, then you become God conscious. Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.
Journalist (2): Well, can we do it?
Prabhupāda: Yes. You accept, surrender to God, then you become God conscious.
Journalist (2): And what happens to me then?
Prabhupāda: Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Journalists -- August 18, 1971, London|Conversation with Journalists -- August 18, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Journalist (2): Can you tell me what is Kṛṣṇa consciousness?</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Journalists -- August 18, 1971, London|Conversation with Journalists -- August 18, 1971, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Journalist (2):.What about yourself? How long have you had this understanding and awareness of God?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: First of all you have understood this thing or not? If you want to see God, you have to become a student like him. Are you prepared to that?</p>
<p>Journalist (2): I haven't got the opportunity to become a student.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then don't talk of seeing God. Don't talk of seeing God. God seeing is not so cheap. You talk about seeing God. If you want to see God, then you have (to) become a student how to see God.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Can I see God by becoming a Christian?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That I was speaking. That if you are true Christian, you will see God. But who is true Christian, let me see first of all.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Have you got a particular mission for London?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I have particular mission for the whole world? Why London? London is included in the world.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): What is that mission?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That mission is to make you understand what is God. You cannot say what is God. If I ask you, can you say what is God?</p>
<p>Journalist (2): I can't. Can you?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore you have to learn.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Can you say what is God?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Yes. Therefore you have to become student.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Tell me what is God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: First of all, you become a student, otherwise you'll not be understand... That I say God is the supreme enjoyer, God is the supreme proprietor. That I already told. Can you understand this? Can you refute this, that God is not the supreme proprietor?</p>
<p>Journalist (2): What sort of people do you want?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why you are going away? You are talking one thing and then going another thing.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): I have to do, I'm afraid.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Then I cannot waste my time. You question one thing. Make a solution.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): What sort of people do you want to become students?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Tell him, Bhagavān.</p>
<p>Bhagavān: We want everyone to become our students. No one has a good understanding of what is God.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): I can't get this on the microphone.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You can take instruction from the students who are actually trying to understand God.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): I read somewhere that possibly you wanted to convert people who were politicians and businessmen. Why?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who said? Where you have got this idea that I am trying to convert politicians? Where?</p>
<p>Journalist (2): In a newspaper.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Where is that newspaper? This is not a fact. You are telling something which is not a fact.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): You want to convert everyone.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Everyone requires to understand God. Why politicians and newspapermen? Everyone. God is for everyone. Everyone requires... The human life is meant for understanding God. Why politicians and businessmen? Without knowing God, he cannot be happy, whatever he may be.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Do you think if people had a deeper understanding of God... a spiritual consciousness...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Then he will be happy.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Do you think it would solve the problems of...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh yes. Oh yes. Certainly.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Which problems?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: All problems. Whatever problems are there. Social, political, religious, cultural, everything.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): The problems that exist in Ireland and India?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Everywhere. You simply give education to understand what is God. Then all problems will be solved.</p>
<p>Journalist (2):.What about yourself? How long have you had this understanding and awareness of God?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How long you want? (laughter) I have had this under-standing from my birth. My father was God conscious, he taught me how to become God conscious.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How long you want? (laughter) I have had this under-standing from my birth. My father was God conscious, he taught me how to become God conscious.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): And you are in fact the spiritual leader of these students. What does that mean?</p>
<p>Journalist (2): And you are in fact the spiritual leader of these students. What does that mean?</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Thank you. Thank you for your time. (break)</p>
<p>Journalist (2): Thank you. Thank you for your time. (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We are simply presenting the fact that everything belongs to God. God is the supreme friend and God is the maintainer of everyone, everything, and He is the supreme enjoyer. These three things, if we understand, then the whole problem is solved. Now, I say that God is the proprietor. Now you refute. Those who will not accept, that "God is not proprietor, I am proprietor," this requires discussion. How you become proprietor? Bhagavad-gītā says, God says, bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 5.29 (1972)|BG 5.29]]). I am not manufacturing this. It is stated in the śāstra. God is the supreme enjoyer. He is the proprietor. He should be enjoyer. Just like here, if I am the proprietor of a factory, so the profit should come to me, similarly, if God is the proprietor of everything then we cannot enjoy anything without the sanction of God. We therefore eat prasādam. We know that the fruit, flowers, or grains, or milk, whatever we are offering to Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa has given us. You cannot manufacture these things, nice oranges, in factory. You cannot manufacture rice or wheat. Actually, God has given. That is God consciousness. Anything, even those who are eating animals, they cannot manufacture animals in the factory. That is also God's creation. So in the Vedas it is said, eko bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān, "That one supreme living being is supplying food or necessities of life to all living entities." That's a fact. He is the maintainer. He is the giver of food. We are simply handling. That's all. Everything. Even this house or your car, everything. The material ingredients are supplied by God. The intelligence is also given by God. So by God-given intelligence, by God-given ingredients, you are preparing something, and you are claiming that "It is mine." Why? Suppose if I give somebody intelligence, "You make this table like this," I give ingredients, I give him money, then after the table is manufactured, if the carpenter says, "It is mine," is that proper ? I have given you money, I have given you the wood, I have given you the intelligence, I have maintained you. How it belongs to you? So this is going on. Everything God's, and we are claiming "Mine." Ahaṁ mameti, janasya moho 'yam ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.8|SB 5.5.8]]). This is called illusion. I am not the proprietor, but I am thinking I am... This is called illusion. So Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to remove this illusion, to accept the real fact. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa consciousness is nothing that is (indistinct) manufactured artificially. To come to your real position. Just like a madman has got in some consciousness. He's thinking so many crazy ways. That sort of consciousness will not help us. If we actually come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is our perfection. (break) God is the proprietor, God is the enjoyer, and God is the maintainer. Three things. So our, this movement is nothing new. It is oldest and authorized. So now if we can push on this movement, that is the greatest welfare activity in the human... (end)</p>
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It takes one second. Yes. You accept, surrender to God, then you become God conscious. Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.
Conversation with Journalists -- August 18, 1971, London:

Journalist (2):.What about yourself? How long have you had this understanding and awareness of God?

Prabhupāda: How long you want? (laughter) I have had this under-standing from my birth. My father was God conscious, he taught me how to become God conscious.

Journalist (2): And you are in fact the spiritual leader of these students. What does that mean?

Prabhupāda: Huh? Because I want to teach them what is God. If anyone is interested with God, I can teach him.

Journalist (2): How long does it take?

Prabhupāda: It takes one second.

Journalist (2): Well, can we do it?

Prabhupāda: Yes. You accept, surrender to God, then you become God conscious.

Journalist (2): And what happens to me then?

Prabhupāda: Then you become happy. And the Bhagavad-gītā says that God said that "You surrender unto Me. I give you protection from all sinful reaction." That is the statement of God. So if surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God, that "God, so long I was forgotten about You. Now I surrender unto You. You do whatever you like," everything is all right.

Journalist (2): Thank you. Thank you for your time. (break)

Prabhupāda: We are simply presenting the fact that everything belongs to God. God is the supreme friend and God is the maintainer of everyone, everything, and He is the supreme enjoyer. These three things, if we understand, then the whole problem is solved. Now, I say that God is the proprietor. Now you refute. Those who will not accept, that "God is not proprietor, I am proprietor," this requires discussion. How you become proprietor? Bhagavad-gītā says, God says, bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram (BG 5.29). I am not manufacturing this. It is stated in the śāstra. God is the supreme enjoyer. He is the proprietor. He should be enjoyer. Just like here, if I am the proprietor of a factory, so the profit should come to me, similarly, if God is the proprietor of everything then we cannot enjoy anything without the sanction of God. We therefore eat prasādam. We know that the fruit, flowers, or grains, or milk, whatever we are offering to Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa has given us. You cannot manufacture these things, nice oranges, in factory. You cannot manufacture rice or wheat. Actually, God has given. That is God consciousness. Anything, even those who are eating animals, they cannot manufacture animals in the factory. That is also God's creation. So in the Vedas it is said, eko bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān, "That one supreme living being is supplying food or necessities of life to all living entities." That's a fact. He is the maintainer. He is the giver of food. We are simply handling. That's all. Everything. Even this house or your car, everything. The material ingredients are supplied by God. The intelligence is also given by God. So by God-given intelligence, by God-given ingredients, you are preparing something, and you are claiming that "It is mine." Why? Suppose if I give somebody intelligence, "You make this table like this," I give ingredients, I give him money, then after the table is manufactured, if the carpenter says, "It is mine," is that proper ? I have given you money, I have given you the wood, I have given you the intelligence, I have maintained you. How it belongs to you? So this is going on. Everything God's, and we are claiming "Mine." Ahaṁ mameti, janasya moho 'yam (SB 5.5.8). This is called illusion. I am not the proprietor, but I am thinking I am... This is called illusion. So Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to remove this illusion, to accept the real fact. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa consciousness is nothing that is (indistinct) manufactured artificially. To come to your real position. Just like a madman has got in some consciousness. He's thinking so many crazy ways. That sort of consciousness will not help us. If we actually come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is our perfection. (break) God is the proprietor, God is the enjoyer, and God is the maintainer. Three things. So our, this movement is nothing new. It is oldest and authorized. So now if we can push on this movement, that is the greatest welfare activity in the human... (end)