Prabhupāda: Where is the understanding of soul? Everyone is puffed up with his body. Nobody considers even that "When I say this finger, 'my finger, my head, my leg...' "
Dr. Patel: And who is that "my"?
Prabhupāda: And who is that "I"?
Dr. Patel: Who is that, saying it, "my"?
Prabhupāda: This is brahma-jijñāsā. Atātho brahma-jijñāsā. When this intelligence comes, then he's a human being. Otherwise he is dog. He is every day saying, "My leg, my head, my finger, my, my," but he does not know what is "I."
Dr. Patel: Who is that calling "my."
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is God...
Dr. Patel: That is greatest āścārya, next to Dharmaraja's āścārya.
Prabhupāda: No, āścārya is death. One may not have this "I" conception, but he has to die. That is a fact. (break)