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<div id="LettertoKirtananandaNewYork13April1967_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="62" link="Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967" link_text="Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967">
<div id="LettertoKirtananandaNewYork13April1967_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="62" link="Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967" link_text="Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967|Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Krishna consciousness means to increase the number of persons in Krishna consciousness. Therefore it is the duty of a Brahmacari to go door to door as beggar and enlighten people in Krishna consciousness. Whenever you go to some person he will hear something from the devotee about Krishna consciousness and that will be very much beneficial for both the devotee and the person who hears the devotee. In India the Brahmacaris are meant for begging from door to door for the Spiritual Master. But in your country this activity is not allowed, therefore some devices like selling the publications recruiting members, inviting them to our meetings and likewise activities must be taken by the Brahmacaris and that will be nice. Grhasthas or the householders have responsibility of family therefore whatever contribution they can offer for the Society is welcome.</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967|Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Krishna consciousness means to increase the number of persons in Krishna consciousness. Therefore it is the duty of a Brahmacari to go door to door as beggar and enlighten people in Krishna consciousness. Whenever you go to some person he will hear something from the devotee about Krishna consciousness and that will be very much beneficial for both the devotee and the person who hears the devotee. In India the Brahmacaris are meant for begging from door to door for the Spiritual Master. But in your country this activity is not allowed, therefore some devices like selling the publications recruiting members, inviting them to our meetings and likewise activities must be taken by the Brahmacaris and that will be nice. Grhasthas or the householders have responsibility of family therefore whatever contribution they can offer for the Society is welcome.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1968_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Correspondence" text="1968 Correspondence"><h3>1968 Correspondence</h3>
</div>
<div id="LettertoHayagrivaMontreal14July1968_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="239" link="Letter to Hayagriva -- Montreal 14 July, 1968" link_text="Letter to Hayagriva -- Montreal 14 July, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hayagriva -- Montreal 14 July, 1968|Letter to Hayagriva -- Montreal 14 July, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the New Vrindaban may not be turned into a place of retirement, but some sort of activities must go on there. If there is good prospective land, we should produce some grains, flours, and fruits, and keep cows, so that the inmates may have sufficient work and facility for advancing in Krishna Consciousness. In India actually the Vrindaban has now become a place of the unemployed, and beggars. Kirtanananda has already seen it; and so there is always a tendency of such degradation if there is no sufficient work for service of Krishna. Another suggestion is that if you can attract some retired men to live there peacefully and at the same time, make oneself advanced in Krishna Consciousness, that will be very nice. But I am afraid that retired men from this country cannot give up their old habits, generally, intoxication, keeping a dog, smoking, etc., and it will be difficult for them to give up such habits even they are invited to live with us in Vrindaban.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="LettertoSatsvarupaMontreal8August1968_1" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="256" link="Letter to Satsvarupa -- Montreal 8 August, 1968" link_text="Letter to Satsvarupa -- Montreal 8 August, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Satsvarupa -- Montreal 8 August, 1968|Letter to Satsvarupa -- Montreal 8 August, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Regarding collection from the public: I think you should take special license or permission from the authority because as a religious society, we can collect in such a way. Simply the authorities have to be informed that we are a serious institute for spreading God consciousness, and that we are not professional beggars. This method of chanting in the park, distributing Prasadam, and selling our literature and making some collection, is just the way by which we can make both propaganda and maintain our institution. So this process must be continued with necessary sanction from the authority. I think there will be no difficulty in getting such sanction.</p>
<p>Regarding Prasadam: It should be cooked in the temple, and nowhere else, and both the Brahmacaris and the Brahmacarinis shall partake of the Prasadam in the temple. I understand that you are working also very hard, so I request you to take care of your health also.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1969_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Correspondence" text="1969 Correspondence"><h3>1969 Correspondence</h3>
</div>
<div id="LettertoBrahmanandaLosAngeles24July1969_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="470" link="Letter to Brahmananda -- Los Angeles 24 July, 1969" link_text="Letter to Brahmananda -- Los Angeles 24 July, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Brahmananda -- Los Angeles 24 July, 1969|Letter to Brahmananda -- Los Angeles 24 July, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We should always remember that Krishna is always grateful to His devotees. If some ordinary man gives sufficient remuneration to a worker, why Krishna will not give sufficient remuneration to His servants? But we should always remember that whatever Krishna gives us, that never becomes ours. It is Krishna's. The more we receive from Krishna, the more we engage the remunerations in the service of Krishna. That is the duty of a bona fide brahmana. A Vaisnava is automatically a bona fide brahmana. There is a proverb that a brahmana remains a beggar even if he receives $100,000. That means that a brahmana is supposed to spend all of his money for Krishna as he receives it from Krishna.</p>
<p>I am so glad to learn that you have increased the number of BTG's to be printed. It is very nice. I was just this morning asking Purusottama to inform you of increasing the publication of Issue #26 because the article, "Beyond the Universe,"</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1970_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Correspondence" text="1970 Correspondence"><h3>1970 Correspondence</h3>
</div>
<div id="LettertoEkayaniLosAngeles10February1970_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="85" link="Letter to Ekayani -- Los Angeles 10 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Ekayani -- Los Angeles 10 February, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Ekayani -- Los Angeles 10 February, 1970|Letter to Ekayani -- Los Angeles 10 February, 1970]]: </span><div class="text">We do not press people to contribute, and even though we do so, it is for the good of the contributor because everything is employed for advancing this Krishna Consciousness movement. The initiated householders are supposed to be Brahmins, and according to scriptural injunction a Brahmin can accept charity for employing the income in the service of the Lord. The boys and girls who chant in the street are also giving in charity the highest benefit to the people in general. So far such Brahmins or Brahmacaris or Sannyasis asking contributions is not against the law, actually that is the way of livelihood for persons who are not karmis.
Sometimes such persons in India go door to door for collecting alms. The whole idea is that one should not be a professional beggar for livelihood, but for Krishna's service this asking.
</div>
</div>
<div id="LettertoBalmukundjiParikhLosAngeles11February1970_1" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="91" link="Letter to Balmukundji Parikh -- Los Angeles 11 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Balmukundji Parikh -- Los Angeles 11 February, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Balmukundji Parikh -- Los Angeles 11 February, 1970|Letter to Balmukundji Parikh -- Los Angeles 11 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The inmates of the temple may not take any collections from the street, so that will be great relief for them. We have no idea to go against the law of England, where begging is prohibited, neither are we beggars. You know very well that the six married couples whom I sent from America are all respectable, educated, cultured American boys and girls, and how with great difficulty they maintained themselves in London and at the same time preached the sankirtana movement which was certainly very effective. At the present moment the London Temple has got some status and if you kindly induce especially the Indian community to give them some monthly subscriptions for the bare necessities of the temple management, the inmates of the temple will completely stop taking collections from the street sankirtana.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="LettertoSatsvarupaLosAngeles28April1970_2" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="274" link="Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 28 April, 1970" link_text="Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 28 April, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 28 April, 1970|Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 28 April, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I am just like a puppet in Your hands, and You have brought me here, now You can make me dance as You like. 19</p>
<p>I have no devotion, nor I have any knowledge, but still I have been designated as Bhaktivedanta, now if You like You can just fulfill the real purport of Bhaktivedanta. 20</p>
<p>The most unfortunate, insignificant beggar, Bhaktivedanta Swami, on board the ship "Jaladuta," Commonwealth Pier, Boston, Massachusetts (U.S.A.), dated 18th September, 1965.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1975_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Correspondence" text="1975 Correspondence"><h3>1975 Correspondence</h3>
</div>
<div id="LettertoRamesvaraPrabhuVrindaban3December1975_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Correspondence" book="Let" index="723" link="Letter to Ramesvara Prabhu -- Vrindaban 3 December, 1975" link_text="Letter to Ramesvara Prabhu -- Vrindaban 3 December, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Ramesvara Prabhu -- Vrindaban 3 December, 1975|Letter to Ramesvara Prabhu -- Vrindaban 3 December, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I am in receipt of your very encouraging letter dated November 27, 1975.</p>
<p>Your report of book sales is over encouraging. You are all becoming very very dear to my Guru Maharaja. I started this movement by book selling. I was never a beggar for money, but I was writing books and selling. My Guru Maharaja very much liked my writing and he used to show others in my absence "Just see how nicely he has written, how he has appreciated." He encouraged me, and my Godbrothers, they also like my writing. After I wrote that poem for Vyasa Puja of my Guru Maharaja they used to call me Poet.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was working writing books and publishing BTG alone, but I could not give the thing shape, so I decided to go to U.S.A. and now you all nice boys and girls have helped me so much, it is all the mercy of Krishna.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1976_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Correspondence" text="1976 Correspondence"><h3>1976 Correspondence</h3>
</div>
<div id="LettertoAksayanandaMayapur29January1976_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="81" link="Letter to Aksayananda -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976" link_text="Letter to Aksayananda -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Aksayananda -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976|Letter to Aksayananda -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We have to wait to see what is the condition of the land during monsoon. If it is not too disturbed we can take it. We will have to wait until July at least to decide. If we get the Kailash Mandir land and this land has a Gosala, it will be a good combination.</p>
<p>I am glad that you are developing the mukut business. Now the devotees must learn so that in the future professionals will not be required.</p>
<p>Regarding holding feasts on Dvadasi days, we don't want to invite some beggar class of men. Don't invite now. When Randas Shastri and Vishvambar think best then we shall invite.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="LettertoDavidAlanLadnerMayapur9February1976_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="119" link="Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976" link_text="Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976|Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is very nice that you chant and take prasadam with our devotees in Berkeley. Please continue to chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare and your life will most certainly become perfect. Actually real peace is to spread this chanting everywhere. That we are doing.</p>
<p>Regarding your request for money, we ourselves are beggars and if we do get some money, we immediately use it to spread the chanting of the holy name of Krishna.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

Latest revision as of 12:31, 28 July 2011

Correspondence

1967 Correspondence

Letter to Kirtanananda -- New York 13 April, 1967:

Krishna consciousness means to increase the number of persons in Krishna consciousness. Therefore it is the duty of a Brahmacari to go door to door as beggar and enlighten people in Krishna consciousness. Whenever you go to some person he will hear something from the devotee about Krishna consciousness and that will be very much beneficial for both the devotee and the person who hears the devotee. In India the Brahmacaris are meant for begging from door to door for the Spiritual Master. But in your country this activity is not allowed, therefore some devices like selling the publications recruiting members, inviting them to our meetings and likewise activities must be taken by the Brahmacaris and that will be nice. Grhasthas or the householders have responsibility of family therefore whatever contribution they can offer for the Society is welcome.

1968 Correspondence

Letter to Hayagriva -- Montreal 14 July, 1968:

So the New Vrindaban may not be turned into a place of retirement, but some sort of activities must go on there. If there is good prospective land, we should produce some grains, flours, and fruits, and keep cows, so that the inmates may have sufficient work and facility for advancing in Krishna Consciousness. In India actually the Vrindaban has now become a place of the unemployed, and beggars. Kirtanananda has already seen it; and so there is always a tendency of such degradation if there is no sufficient work for service of Krishna. Another suggestion is that if you can attract some retired men to live there peacefully and at the same time, make oneself advanced in Krishna Consciousness, that will be very nice. But I am afraid that retired men from this country cannot give up their old habits, generally, intoxication, keeping a dog, smoking, etc., and it will be difficult for them to give up such habits even they are invited to live with us in Vrindaban.

Letter to Satsvarupa -- Montreal 8 August, 1968:

Regarding collection from the public: I think you should take special license or permission from the authority because as a religious society, we can collect in such a way. Simply the authorities have to be informed that we are a serious institute for spreading God consciousness, and that we are not professional beggars. This method of chanting in the park, distributing Prasadam, and selling our literature and making some collection, is just the way by which we can make both propaganda and maintain our institution. So this process must be continued with necessary sanction from the authority. I think there will be no difficulty in getting such sanction.

Regarding Prasadam: It should be cooked in the temple, and nowhere else, and both the Brahmacaris and the Brahmacarinis shall partake of the Prasadam in the temple. I understand that you are working also very hard, so I request you to take care of your health also.

1969 Correspondence

Letter to Brahmananda -- Los Angeles 24 July, 1969:

We should always remember that Krishna is always grateful to His devotees. If some ordinary man gives sufficient remuneration to a worker, why Krishna will not give sufficient remuneration to His servants? But we should always remember that whatever Krishna gives us, that never becomes ours. It is Krishna's. The more we receive from Krishna, the more we engage the remunerations in the service of Krishna. That is the duty of a bona fide brahmana. A Vaisnava is automatically a bona fide brahmana. There is a proverb that a brahmana remains a beggar even if he receives $100,000. That means that a brahmana is supposed to spend all of his money for Krishna as he receives it from Krishna.

I am so glad to learn that you have increased the number of BTG's to be printed. It is very nice. I was just this morning asking Purusottama to inform you of increasing the publication of Issue #26 because the article, "Beyond the Universe,"

1970 Correspondence

Letter to Ekayani -- Los Angeles 10 February, 1970:
We do not press people to contribute, and even though we do so, it is for the good of the contributor because everything is employed for advancing this Krishna Consciousness movement. The initiated householders are supposed to be Brahmins, and according to scriptural injunction a Brahmin can accept charity for employing the income in the service of the Lord. The boys and girls who chant in the street are also giving in charity the highest benefit to the people in general. So far such Brahmins or Brahmacaris or Sannyasis asking contributions is not against the law, actually that is the way of livelihood for persons who are not karmis.

Sometimes such persons in India go door to door for collecting alms. The whole idea is that one should not be a professional beggar for livelihood, but for Krishna's service this asking.

Letter to Balmukundji Parikh -- Los Angeles 11 February, 1970:

The inmates of the temple may not take any collections from the street, so that will be great relief for them. We have no idea to go against the law of England, where begging is prohibited, neither are we beggars. You know very well that the six married couples whom I sent from America are all respectable, educated, cultured American boys and girls, and how with great difficulty they maintained themselves in London and at the same time preached the sankirtana movement which was certainly very effective. At the present moment the London Temple has got some status and if you kindly induce especially the Indian community to give them some monthly subscriptions for the bare necessities of the temple management, the inmates of the temple will completely stop taking collections from the street sankirtana.

Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 28 April, 1970:

I am just like a puppet in Your hands, and You have brought me here, now You can make me dance as You like. 19

I have no devotion, nor I have any knowledge, but still I have been designated as Bhaktivedanta, now if You like You can just fulfill the real purport of Bhaktivedanta. 20

The most unfortunate, insignificant beggar, Bhaktivedanta Swami, on board the ship "Jaladuta," Commonwealth Pier, Boston, Massachusetts (U.S.A.), dated 18th September, 1965.

1975 Correspondence

Letter to Ramesvara Prabhu -- Vrindaban 3 December, 1975:

I am in receipt of your very encouraging letter dated November 27, 1975.

Your report of book sales is over encouraging. You are all becoming very very dear to my Guru Maharaja. I started this movement by book selling. I was never a beggar for money, but I was writing books and selling. My Guru Maharaja very much liked my writing and he used to show others in my absence "Just see how nicely he has written, how he has appreciated." He encouraged me, and my Godbrothers, they also like my writing. After I wrote that poem for Vyasa Puja of my Guru Maharaja they used to call me Poet.

Anyway, I was working writing books and publishing BTG alone, but I could not give the thing shape, so I decided to go to U.S.A. and now you all nice boys and girls have helped me so much, it is all the mercy of Krishna.

1976 Correspondence

Letter to Aksayananda -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976:

We have to wait to see what is the condition of the land during monsoon. If it is not too disturbed we can take it. We will have to wait until July at least to decide. If we get the Kailash Mandir land and this land has a Gosala, it will be a good combination.

I am glad that you are developing the mukut business. Now the devotees must learn so that in the future professionals will not be required.

Regarding holding feasts on Dvadasi days, we don't want to invite some beggar class of men. Don't invite now. When Randas Shastri and Vishvambar think best then we shall invite.

Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976:

It is very nice that you chant and take prasadam with our devotees in Berkeley. Please continue to chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare and your life will most certainly become perfect. Actually real peace is to spread this chanting everywhere. That we are doing.

Regarding your request for money, we ourselves are beggars and if we do get some money, we immediately use it to spread the chanting of the holy name of Krishna.