Prabhupāda: Yes. Now, mūḍhā-matī, how to understand?
Guest (2): "Cannot recognize Me."
Prabhupāda: Suppose I am mūḍhā-matī, so how I am to understand?
Guest (2): Yes, but Kṛṣṇa as a body form could be seen and could be recognized by people as such. So there was no question of not understanding him.
Prabhupāda: Thing is that whatever I have understood about Kṛṣṇa I haven't got to learn from you.
Guest (2): No, you don't have to learn from me.
Prabhupāda: Thank you.
Guest (2): But what you have to learn...
Prabhupāda: No, no, I am not speaking my own views. I have got my ācāryas, my teachers, Rāmānujācārya, Śaṅkarācārya, Madhvācārya. So it is all right. It is all right. I have got so many authorities. What authority you have got?
Guest (2): I am, myself, in my own senses...
Prabhupāda: Now, you are not authority.
Guest (2): I am not but my own...
Prabhupāda: I am following so many authorities. Then... Then there is no question.
Guest (2): I am only...
Prabhupāda: You are yourself authority. Now, if you say my views are not correct, I may be incorrect but I am following the predecessor. I am taking...
Guest (2): What is the difference there? Sir, I accept that.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): Hundred per cent, you are very correct in saying what you have just said.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): I want to understand that point of view. That is why I have come.
Prabhupāda: But this is the point of understanding. That I have already told you, in the Bhagavad-gītā, that if you want to understand, first of all you have to surrender.