Svarūpa Dāmodara: The material world itself is temporary. So the scientists still make it much more temporary?
Prabhupāda: Eh? Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: By investing, by, by finding out the different ways of . . . they're called conveniences. So by producing these things makes much more comfortable.
Prabhupāda: Easier. Easier to die. They have invented the atomic. Very easy to kill. (japa)
But in . . . despite all these disadvantages, if the scientists bring in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then that is success. It will be success. The sea, without waves, does not look well. Without waves, when the sea is calm and quiet, it does not look well. What do you think? Eh?
Karandhara: It does not look well?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now with waves it looks beautiful.
Karandhara: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So that is the property of the ocean.
Prabhupāda: No, everything has got some quality and beauty. Just like Cāṇakya Paṇḍita says, nārīṇāṁ bhūṣaṇaṁ patiḥ, that woman, the personal beauty is not beauty. When she has got a husband, then she's beauty. How scientific it is. All these girls in your country, without husband, they're all morose, unhappy. They have no fixity of husband. Is it not?
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The woman population is greater everywhere, and if they have no husband, they're very sorry. I have studied in this country. They're very unhappy without husband. Therefore I introduced this marriage in our Society. Now in our Society see all the women with children, how happy they are.
Brahmānanda: Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They have got Kṛṣṇa, they have got husband, they have got children. Now, happy they are. They're working hard for beauty of the home, for the temple. And now last night that Mukunda's cousin-sister came. How unhappy she is.
Brahmānanda: Yes. You could also see the child.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: The difference between that child and our children.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: You could see immediately.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, that girl was Mukunda's . . .?
Prabhupāda: Cousin-sister. Without husband, woman is very, very unhappy. Therefore according to Vedic system the father has got a very responsible duty to get the daughter married. It is a responsibility of the father. In the absence of father—elder brother. Now the scientists have given them contraceptive. "Don't marry, and use contraceptive." This is scientific advancement. And the contraceptive-user of girls, they're never beautiful.
Natural beauty . . . natural beauty's lost. Did you mark it? Between a woman having natural children, her beauty's better than the girl using contraceptive. It is natural. As soon as you check natural system, you become in difficulty. The . . . still the system is current. Kṣatriyas, kings, when they are married . . . you have seen, Kṛṣṇa's father's marriage. So many women also were given.
Brahmānanda: Yes, in charity.
Prabhupāda: Because always women population is greater than the man. So those who are kings, they could maintain more than one wife. So not only one wife; another three dozen maidservant. They were freely mixing, the king. They got also children. But they were not, I mean to say, eligible for throne. Only the married wife's son. This is . . . this was the system. Just like Vidura. Vidura happened to be a son of such maidservant. So she had . . . he had no claim on the throne. Dāsī-putra. They were called dāsī-putra. They're maintained, just like in royal family, but they have no claim on the throne.