Prabhupāda: ...fight with tiger and elephants?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Lions.
Dhanañjaya: They would use a trident and a net and they would try to throw the net over the lion and fight the lion like this.
Prabhupāda: And kill?
Dhanañjaya: And kill, yes. They would arm themselves with a helmet and some protection here for their arms and sometimes for their chest, and then they would attack with the trident. (break) Earlier Claudius.
Atreya Ṛṣi: For enjoyment they would even put two gladiators fighting each other, two men killing each other, and they would all watch.
Prabhupāda: Just see. That was in India also, that Kaṁsa's wrestling with Kṛṣṇa. Yes.
Yogeśvara: Was that to the death?
Prabhupāda: Yes. It comes automatically to death. Although it is not meant. Nobody will agree that "I am defeated." Therefore death. There must be death. What is this building?
Dhanañjaya: This is a mock mountain-top for the goats and for other wild animals.
Prabhupāda: Oh, this is artificial?
Dhanañjaya: Artificial.
Yogeśvara: There's one. There's a goat.