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<p>Guest: But why, why are they trying to transcend material, transcend material nature? Who is doing these miracles? Or why try to do (indistinct) Why should human beings try to do (indistinct)?</p>
<p>Guest: But why, why are they trying to transcend material, transcend material nature? Who is doing these miracles? Or why try to do (indistinct) Why should human beings try to do (indistinct)?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. The yoga practice is like that. It is very good, that "Why we should bother ourself with such things?" That is the opinion of the devotees. The devotees, they do not want any such miracles to perform or to make some jugglery to the people. They are satisfied with the service of the Lord. So that is the position of the devotee. But generally, the yogis, they want such things.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. The yoga practice is like that. It is very good, that "Why we should bother ourself with such things?" That is the opinion of the devotees. The devotees, they do not want any such miracles to perform or to make some jugglery to the people. They are satisfied with the service of the Lord. So that is the position of the devotee. But generally, the yogis, they want such things.</p>
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<div id="PressInterviewDecember301968LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="26" link="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles" link_text="Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">There is another nature beyond this material nature which is eternal. This nature is coming into existence, again dissolution. But that nature is eternal.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles|Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are descriptions. There are descriptions of these things. There is description of another nature which is called spiritual nature. This is material nature. The sky, as far as you can see, this is one universe. Similarly, there are millions of universes. And all these together, that is material sky. And beyond that, there is spiritual sky, which is far, far greater than this. And there are spiritual planets. So this information we have got from Bhagavad-gītā, what to speak of other Vedic literatures. Bhagavad-gītā, it is daily read by practically all over the world, but they do not understand it. Simply they become student of Bhagavad-gītā, or simply just to think falsely that "I am God." That's all. But they don't take any particular information. There is a verse in the Eighth Chapter, paras tasmāt tu bhāvo 'nyo 'vyakto 'vyaktāt sanātanaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 8.20 (1972)|BG 8.20]]). There is another nature beyond this material nature which is eternal. This nature is coming into existence, again dissolution. But that nature is eternal. These things are there. Similarly, there, planets are also eternal. There, living entities, they are also eternal. That is called sanātana.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithKrishnaTiwariMay221973NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="31" link="Room Conversation with Krishna Tiwari -- May 22, 1973, New York" link_text="Room Conversation with Krishna Tiwari -- May 22, 1973, New York">
<div class="heading">Another thing is, he says, he says that he does not know what is there beyond this material nature.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Krishna Tiwari -- May 22, 1973, New York|Room Conversation with Krishna Tiwari -- May 22, 1973, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): Ultimately you come to the theory of uncertainty. So we're saying, when you come to this point, then you may as well just relax and try to have a submissive attitude, or any scientist, and try to receive knowledge which is descending.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Another, another thing is, he says, he says that he does not know what is there beyond this material nature. But he's still satisfied with that imperfect knowledge.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember191973Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="76" link="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay">
<div class="heading">"Beyond this material world," Uttama. Śreya uttamam. Because we are not this material body, therefore our śreyas, our highest perfection of life, is different.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: What is immediately pleasing to you, it will be a source of great displeasure at the end. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. So uttamam. Uttamam. Ut means transcendental, and tama means this material world. "Beyond this material world," Uttama. Śreya uttamam. Because we are not this material body, therefore our śreyas, our highest perfection of life, is different.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril11974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay">
<div class="heading">That is spiritual world, beyond this material world. So they have no information what is that spiritual world.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is spiritual world. That is spiritual world, beyond this material world. So they have no information what is that spiritual world. Therefore it is said that... Here it is going on, pralaya, anya pralaya. During Brahmā's night, there is dissolution. Again creation. And when Brahmā dies, there is another dissolution. That is going on. But paras tasmāt, above this creation and dissolution, there is another nature. That is sanātana. That is eternal.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="PressConferenceJuly91975Chicago_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="135" link="Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago">
<div class="heading">It is manifested or created, and again it is dissolved or annihilated. But beyond this material nature, there is another nature.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago|Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: It is manifested or created, and again it is dissolved or annihilated. But beyond this material nature, there is another nature. There are also innumerable planets. They are known as Vaikuṇṭha planets or Vṛndāvana planets. That is the kingdom of God. If we transfer ourself to that eternal nature, then we won't have to come back to this material nature again. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama ([[Vanisource:BG 15.6 (1972)|BG 15.6]]). Anyone who goes to that eternal nature, he hasn't got to come back again to this material nature. The material nature has been explained as duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15 (1972)|BG 8.15]]).</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaMay151977Hrishikesh_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="171" link="Evening Darsana -- May 15, 1977, Hrishikesh" link_text="Evening Darsana -- May 15, 1977, Hrishikesh">
<div class="heading">When we speak of guru, it means beyond this material world. For that purpose we require guru.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- May 15, 1977, Hrishikesh|Evening Darsana -- May 15, 1977, Hrishikesh]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They have also manufactured. (laughter) This is going on. So Vedic injunction is tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). Guru is required to understand tad-vijñānam, transcendental science, not for any material understanding. Material understanding, there are so many chemists, (sic:) physists and many other department of... When we speak of guru, it means beyond this material world. For that purpose we require guru. So... Just like now it is being very much advertised that "You execute meditation. Your mind will be strong. Your health will be strong." That means from material point. But keeping your health strong, the medical science is there and so many other thing. But people are taking advantage of this yoga system. The śāstra says that dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 12.13.1|SB 12.13.1]]). He is yogi who is meditating and mind is fully absorbed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise it is material. Material things does not require... Maybe a gymnastic, muṣṭika.</p>
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Latest revision as of 20:18, 15 May 2018

Expressions researched:
"beyond the manifestation of this material" |"beyond the material creation" |"beyond the material energy" |"beyond the material existence" |"beyond the material manifestation" |"beyond the material nature" |"beyond the material sky" |"beyond the material world" |"beyond this material creation" |"beyond this material energy" |"beyond this material existence" |"beyond this material experience" |"beyond this material manifestation" |"beyond this material nature" |"beyond this material sky" |"beyond this material world" |"beyond this temporary world"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1968 Conversations and Morning Walks

The devotees, they do not want any such miracles to perform or to make some jugglery to the people. They are satisfied with the service of the Lord.
Questions and Answers -- September 6, 1968, New York:

Guest: You mentioned these miracles. The only miracle (indistinct) who has gone beyond the material encagement. That is what the yogi is trying, is striving to do, trying to go beyond the material nature. When one mentions miracles, it is surely a proof that he has actually transcended this material nature.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Guest: But why, why are they trying to transcend material, transcend material nature? Who is doing these miracles? Or why try to do (indistinct) Why should human beings try to do (indistinct)?

Prabhupāda: No. The yoga practice is like that. It is very good, that "Why we should bother ourself with such things?" That is the opinion of the devotees. The devotees, they do not want any such miracles to perform or to make some jugglery to the people. They are satisfied with the service of the Lord. So that is the position of the devotee. But generally, the yogis, they want such things.

There is another nature beyond this material nature which is eternal. This nature is coming into existence, again dissolution. But that nature is eternal.
Press Interview -- December 30, 1968, Los Angeles:

Prabhupāda: There are descriptions. There are descriptions of these things. There is description of another nature which is called spiritual nature. This is material nature. The sky, as far as you can see, this is one universe. Similarly, there are millions of universes. And all these together, that is material sky. And beyond that, there is spiritual sky, which is far, far greater than this. And there are spiritual planets. So this information we have got from Bhagavad-gītā, what to speak of other Vedic literatures. Bhagavad-gītā, it is daily read by practically all over the world, but they do not understand it. Simply they become student of Bhagavad-gītā, or simply just to think falsely that "I am God." That's all. But they don't take any particular information. There is a verse in the Eighth Chapter, paras tasmāt tu bhāvo 'nyo 'vyakto 'vyaktāt sanātanaḥ (BG 8.20). There is another nature beyond this material nature which is eternal. This nature is coming into existence, again dissolution. But that nature is eternal. These things are there. Similarly, there, planets are also eternal. There, living entities, they are also eternal. That is called sanātana.

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

Another thing is, he says, he says that he does not know what is there beyond this material nature.
Room Conversation with Krishna Tiwari -- May 22, 1973, New York:

Devotee (1): Ultimately you come to the theory of uncertainty. So we're saying, when you come to this point, then you may as well just relax and try to have a submissive attitude, or any scientist, and try to receive knowledge which is descending.

Prabhupāda: Another, another thing is, he says, he says that he does not know what is there beyond this material nature. But he's still satisfied with that imperfect knowledge.

"Beyond this material world," Uttama. Śreya uttamam. Because we are not this material body, therefore our śreyas, our highest perfection of life, is different.
Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay:

Prabhupāda: What is immediately pleasing to you, it will be a source of great displeasure at the end. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. So uttamam. Uttamam. Ut means transcendental, and tama means this material world. "Beyond this material world," Uttama. Śreya uttamam. Because we are not this material body, therefore our śreyas, our highest perfection of life, is different.

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

That is spiritual world, beyond this material world. So they have no information what is that spiritual world.
Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay:

Prabhupāda: That is spiritual world. That is spiritual world, beyond this material world. So they have no information what is that spiritual world. Therefore it is said that... Here it is going on, pralaya, anya pralaya. During Brahmā's night, there is dissolution. Again creation. And when Brahmā dies, there is another dissolution. That is going on. But paras tasmāt, above this creation and dissolution, there is another nature. That is sanātana. That is eternal.

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

It is manifested or created, and again it is dissolved or annihilated. But beyond this material nature, there is another nature.
Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago:

Prabhupāda: It is manifested or created, and again it is dissolved or annihilated. But beyond this material nature, there is another nature. There are also innumerable planets. They are known as Vaikuṇṭha planets or Vṛndāvana planets. That is the kingdom of God. If we transfer ourself to that eternal nature, then we won't have to come back to this material nature again. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6). Anyone who goes to that eternal nature, he hasn't got to come back again to this material nature. The material nature has been explained as duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam (BG 8.15).

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

When we speak of guru, it means beyond this material world. For that purpose we require guru.
Evening Darsana -- May 15, 1977, Hrishikesh:

Prabhupāda: They have also manufactured. (laughter) This is going on. So Vedic injunction is tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). Guru is required to understand tad-vijñānam, transcendental science, not for any material understanding. Material understanding, there are so many chemists, (sic:) physists and many other department of... When we speak of guru, it means beyond this material world. For that purpose we require guru. So... Just like now it is being very much advertised that "You execute meditation. Your mind will be strong. Your health will be strong." That means from material point. But keeping your health strong, the medical science is there and so many other thing. But people are taking advantage of this yoga system. The śāstra says that dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ (SB 12.13.1). He is yogi who is meditating and mind is fully absorbed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Otherwise it is material. Material things does not require... Maybe a gymnastic, muṣṭika.