Hari-śauri: Is our goal to actually establish Vedic principles back into society again at large?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: Of course.
Prabhupāda: That will be Satya-yuga. Again the Vedic principles will be established after finishing this Kali-yuga. And that is Satya-yuga. That is going on. Just after summer, there is winter. There is... After winter, there is summer.
Rāmeśvara: But this is extraordinary. Lord Caitanya's movement, the ten thousand years of His movement, that is a special exception for the Kali-yuga.
Prabhupāda: Special for this millennium. But the thing is going on like that, rotating.
Rāmeśvara: But in general, first it gets more and more degraded. Then it's all finished.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Unless there is degradation, there is no question of improvement. So this is going on. This is nature's way, bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate (BG 8.19), appearance and disappearance.