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     12:29  People who accuse followers of Vedic civilization of laziness or of "inhibiting progress" do not know what real progress is. The Vedic civilization is not interested in the false progress of economic development diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:23  They (followers of Vedic Civilization) are so busy that they want to begin the busy-ness from their very childhood. Therefore it is wrong to think they are lazy diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:17  They (followers of Vedic Civilization) are very, very busy. Not only very, very busy, but also kaumara acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan iha: (SB 7.6.1) they are trying to become self-realized from the very beginning of life diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:17  There are two different platforms, the material and the spiritual. Followers of the Vedic civilization, which is practiced in India - although nowadays it is distorted - actually, these people are not lazy diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:16  During the daytime the dogs and asses think, - We are working, but these spiritualists, they are not working diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:15 Deletion log Nabakumar talk contribs deleted page The self-controlled man wakes up very early - practically in the middle of the night - and works for spiritual realization while others are sleeping(content was: "<div id="compilation"> <div id="facts"> {{terms|"The self-controlled man wakes up very early - practically in the middle of the night - and works for spiritual realization while others are sleeping"}} {{notes|}} {{compiler|Soham}} {{complete|ALL}} {{first|2022-03-23T13:43:14Z}} {{last|2022-03-23T13:43:14Z}} {{totals_by_section|BG=0|SB=0|CC=0|OB=1|Lec=0|Con=0|Let=0}} {{total|1}} {{to...", and the only contributor was "Soham" (talk))
     12:13  What is night for ordinary beings is the time of wakefulness for the self-controlled." The self-controlled man wakes up very early - practically in the middle of the night - and works for spiritual realization while others are sleeping diffhist +2 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:02  At the Kumbha-mela, millions of people come to take bath in the Ganges because they are interested in how to become spiritually liberated from this material world. They're not lazy diffhist +2 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:01  The followers of varnasrama-dharma - they never tried for economic development. You'll find in India, still, millions of people taking bath in the Ganges during Kumbha-mela. Have you have been to the Kumbha-mela festival diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:00  The Vedic system of civilization is meant for realizing God: visnur aradhyate. In the Vedic system, people try for that diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:00  We are satisfied with whatever material happiness and distress we are destined. But we are very eager to utilize our energy for progressing in Krsna consciousness. This is the point diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:59  In our International Society for Krishna Consciousness, our main business is how to make advancement in Krsna consciousness. We are not enthusiastic about opening big, big factories with big, big money-earning machines. No diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:59  Whatever energy you have, utilize it for understanding Krsna consciousness. That is real progress. Make your spiritual understanding - your understanding of God and self - perfectly clear diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:57  First you must understand what actual progress is. The thing is that if you try to progress vainly, what is the use of trying? If it is a fact you cannot change your material destiny, why should you try for that diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:55  Don't waste your time with these things (checking happines and distress condition of life). better you utilize your energy for advancing in Krsna consciousness diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:54  Just as you cannot check your distressing condition of life, similarly you cannot check your happy condition of life. It will come automatically diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:46  Nobody is enjoying uninterrupted material happiness. That is not possible. A certain amount of material happiness and a certain amount of material distress - these both must be present always diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:37  The whole Vedic civilization is based on the understanding that destiny allows only a certain amount of material happiness in this world, and that our efforts should therefore be directed toward self-realization diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:36  The Vedic system is not fatalistic. It is fatalistic only in the sense that one's material destiny cannot be changed. But your spiritual life is in your hands diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:16  Why shall I waste my time trying to avoid distress and gain so-called happiness? Let me utilize my energy for Krsna consciousness. - That is intelligence. You cannot check your destiny. The magazine's question touches on this point diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:15  Who can protect you from all these distressing conditions? - "So," you should conclude, "if these distressing conditions come upon me by force, the other kind of condition, the opposite number, will also come diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:15  Who wants distress? E.g. in our country, Mahatma Gandhi was killed by his own countrymen. He was a great man, he was protected by so many followers, he was beloved by all - and still he was killed. Destiny diffhist 0 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:12  How can I believe it - that by working harder I will not get more material happiness than I would otherwise have had? - Because you are undergoing so many distressing conditions even though you do not want them diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:12  Prahlada Maharaja says, na tat-prayasah kartavyam: you should not waste your energy for material happiness, because you cannot get more than what you are destined to have. That is not possible diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:11  Even though you do not want distress, still distress comes upon you. Similarly, even if you do not work hard for the happiness that is destined to be yours, still it will come diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:00  How shall I get them (material happiness)?" How? Kalena sarvatra gabhira-ramhasa: By the arrangement of eternal time, everything will come about in due course diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:59  Take to Krsna consciousness. You'll get these other things (material happiness) besides diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:48  Someone may ask, "Then shall we do nothing?" Yes do nothing simply to improve your material position. Whatever material happiness is allotted for you by destiny, you'll get it wherever you are diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:47  Vedic civilization is different. As Narada Muni says the learned, astute person will use this life to gain what he has missed in countless prior lives - namely, realization of self and realization of God diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:46  They (members of the modern civilization) think the four-wheel race is advancement of civilization diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:45  The members of the modern so-called civilization do not know of varnasrama. Therefore they have created a society that is simply a dog's race. The dog is running on four legs, and thay are running on four wheels. That's all diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:42  The ultimate goal is visnur aradhyate - the worship of the Supreme Lord, Visnu , by all. That is the idea diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:41  The spiritual divisions are the brahmacaris - students, grhasthas - householders, vanaprasthas - retirees, and sannyasis - renunciants diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:40  The varnasrama system has four social and four spiritual divisions. the social divisions are the brahmanas - teachers and priests, ksatriyas - administrators and military men, vaisyas - farmers and merchants, and sudras - laborers and craftsmen diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:39  Everyone should offer up the fruits of his occupational duty to the lotus feet of the Lord Visnu , or Krsna." That is why the Vedic system is called varnasrama - literally, "social organization with a spiritual perspective diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:38  The materialistic workers - they see, "These men are not working like us, like dogs & asses. So they are escaping." Yes, escaping your fruitless endeavor.The Vedic civilization of self-realization begins from the varnasrama system of social organization diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:30  Busy-ness is so important that Prahlada Maharaja says, kaumara acaret prajno: (SB 7.6.1) "Beginning from childhood, one should work for self-realization." One should not lose a second's time. So that is Vedic civilization diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:29  Vedic civilization is different. The accusation implied in the question is not correct. In the Vedic system, people are not lazy. They are very busy working for a higher purpose diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:28  They (karmis) work like asses, without any real aim of life diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:23  He (mundane worker) will have the same two pieces of bread and one cup of tea, even though he has increased his balance from one thousand to two thousand. And still he'll work hard. This is why karmis are called mudhas diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:21  What is the result of your being so busy? "Well, I take two pieces of toast and one cup of tea. That's all." (Laughter.) And for this purpose you are so busy diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:18  The mundane workers are like that (no sense to think). They're busy at the office, very busy. If you want to see the fellow - I am very busy now diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:18  The ass stands at the washerman's door, eating the grass, while the washerman loads him up again. The ass has no sense to think - If I get out of the clutches of this washerman, I can get grass anywhere. Why am I carrying so much diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:13  The ass works very hard for no tangible gain. He carries on his back tons of cloth for the washerman, and the washerman in return gives him a little morsel of grass diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:09  We are escaping their reality. But their reality is a dog's race, and our reality is to advance in self-realization, Krsna consciousness. That is the difference. Therefore the mundane, materialistic workers have been described as mudhas, asses diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:09  The Vedic civilization is for self-realization. It is meant for the intelligent person, the person who will not just work like an ass but who will try for that thing which he did not achieve in so many other lives - namely, self-realization diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:03  He's thinking, "I am so busy & working so hard, yet I am not getting a good salary. And this man is just sitting on the bench, and he's getting such a fat salary." The criticism of Hinduism as "inhibiting progress" is like that: it comes out of ignorance diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs
N    10:03  It is not that zero, but many persons are interested (in God). We are selling our books. We are selling our magazines. We are recruiting members, and they are dedicating their life for this cause diffhist +2,877 Soham talk contribs (Created page with "<div id="compilation"> <div id="facts"> {{terms|". It is not that zero, but many persons are interested. We are selling our books. We are selling our magazines. We are recruiting members, and they are dedicating their life for this cause"}} {{notes|}} {{compiler|Soham}} {{complete|ALL}} {{first|2024-06-18T10:02:59.000Z}} {{last|2024-06-18T10:02:59.000Z}} {{totals_by_section|BG=0|SB=0|CC=0|OB=0|Lec=0|Con=1|Let=0}} {{total|1}} {{toc right}} Category:It Is Not That Ca...")
     10:02  In a high-court a judge is sitting soberly, apparently doing nothing, and he is getting the highest salary. And another man in the same court - he's working hard all day long, rubber-stamping, and he is getting not even one-tenth of the judge's salary diffhist +1 Nabakumar talk contribs