Prabhupāda: Yes. I never wanted his property. I simply desired that such a sublime message, that my poetry, that . . .
Śyāmasundara: First poem upon arriving.
Prabhupāda: Yes. "Miracle done." I wanted, "Oh, there is a miracle. If I try to preach this miracle in the world." So he has given me the facility. I never wanted the Gauḍīya Maṭha buildings.
Śyāmasundara: So because you desired in a certain way, he provided that facility also.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I desired that, "Such a wonderful message, why not preach?"
Devotee (3): And you got buildings also.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Devotee (3): You got buildings . . .
Prabhupāda: Building automatically comes. But rascal fools, they do not understand this. That is mentioned in the . . . in bhakti, other success follows. Just like when the queen goes, there are many maidservants catching the . . . what is called?
Śyāmasundara: Train.
Prabhupāda: Train, yes. They follow. So if bhakti follows, then all other things follows. Bilvamaṅgala Ṭhākura also says that muktiḥ mukulitāṅjali sevate asmān, bhaktis tvayi sthiratarā yadi bhagavan syād. "If there is pure devotion for You, then muktiḥ mukulitāṅjali, mukti is standing, 'My dear sir, what can I do for you?' Folded hand." Dharmārtha-kāma-mokṣa samaya-pratīkṣāḥ (SB 4.8.41): "And the material happiness, they are simply waiting." The servant waits, "Yes, sir, what do you want?"
Śyāmasundara: (laughs) Boy. Phew.
Prabhupāda: Simply one has to develop.
- bhaktis tvayi sthiratarā bhagavan yadi syād
- daivena naḥ phalati divya-kiśora-mūrtiḥ
- muktiḥ (svayaṁ) mukulitāñjali sevate 'smān
- dharmārtha-kāma-(gatayaḥ) samaya-pratīkṣāḥ
- (SB 4.8.41).
There is definition given by . . . bhaktis sthiratarā, "Unflinching devotional service, if there is, then by Your will, anyone can see," divya-kiśora mūrtiḥ, "can see Me." And so far other things are concerned, mukti and bhukti, they are simply waiting.