Śyāmasundara: That was the name of Allen Ginsberg's first book, Howl.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Śyāmasundara: Howl.
Prabhupāda: Howa?
Śyāmasundara: Howl. That means it was a protest, a howling, "You have not given us the right information," to his elders. "Now what do we do? Simply howl." That was the introduction for our generation, and we all listened to that, read that, the howl protest.
Prabhupāda: He is also searching after, therefore he comes. Whenever he finds opportunity, he comes to me. He's searching after Kṛṣṇa.
Śyāmasundara: Yes. He gets so many bogus ideas. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) But still he's attached to us.
Śyāmasundara: He embraces you when you meet.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He likes me. (laughter) Simply his only objection is that I am very conservative. He said: "Swāmī, you are very conservative." Because I forbid so many things. He cannot. Otherwise he would have joined me, but he cannot.
Śyāmasundara: No.
Prabhupāda: He knows that, "Unless I give up all these bad habits, Swāmī will not accept me."
Devotee (1): He is a very enthusiastic chanter.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (1): Oh, we were in this chapel chanting.
Prabhupāda: He was there?
Devotee (1): Yes, he was there. He came down on stage, jumping up and down, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa." Then he took prasādam. He was very enthusiastic.