Prabhupāda: What new creation? Unless there was plum and peach, how could you create?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So the peach and plum create.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yadubara: So they're dependent on the . . . (indistinct) . . .. (break)
Rādhā-vallabha: . . . scientist named Fox who has. . . They have conjectured that these original very complex nucleic acids have created life. So he has taken these acids in a big test tube. . .
Prabhupāda: I say, "Fox, go to the forest." (laughter) "And cry there." Yes, we treat them as foxes and jackals, that's all, not even human beings. Why they waste time in this way and people are enamored by them? That is. . . Just like you were talking about space meeting. What they have gained out of it? And people are enamored to talk about them, write in the newspaper or make a subject matter. And then all of a sudden death comes, "Get out," finished. You see? How foolish they are. So, Hayagrīva prabhu, how you are feeling?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hayagrīva.
Prabhupāda: How you are feeling?
Hayagrīva: Oh, fine, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: That's nice. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) Caitanya Mahāprabhu's order is, yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128). Don't talk nonsense. Whomever you meet, if you want to become a leader and talk something, talk kṛṣṇa-kathā, yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa' - what Kṛṣṇa has said. Then satisfy your ambition to become a talker. Otherwise, you rascal, remain a talker only. You talk only; you get nothing. If you want to utilize your talking power, then talk what Kṛṣṇa has instructed. Then your life will be successful. And if you talk foolishly, then you will be, what is called, revealed as a rascal. Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkho yāvat kiñcin na bhāsate: "A rascal fool is so long beautiful as long he does not speak. As soon as he speaks, then he is revealed that he is a rascal." So don't talk this. Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkha. You can dress yourself very nice gentleman. People will res. . . But as soon as you talk nonsense—"Oh, here is a rascal," that's all. That is going on. They are. . . In the name of scientist, philosopher, they are talking nonsense and exposing themselves that they are all rascals. (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . .someone like Meher Baba, who never spoke?
Prabhupāda: That is another art of not being exposed. (laughter) Because as soon as he speaks, he becomes rascal. So mauna baba . . . There is no enemy. There is in Bengali, bhovara satru nai: "If you are dumb, then nobody is your enemy." So they become bhovara, means dumb; I don't speak. That means I don't create many enemies, that's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nothing positive, though.
Prabhupāda: Yes. "You are okay; I am okay." That's all. (laughter)
Yadubara: Like that Yogi Bhajan. He didn't say anything for a long time. Then when he spoke, he started speaking about his court cases.
Prabhupāda: Court cases?
Yadubara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He is very expert. Very expert in dealing with legal cases. So what they will speak? What they have got? Better not to talk.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. During that meeting, that Muni, he was interested in spiritual conversation. But Yogi Bhajan, he did not take part at all in that part.
Prabhupāda: No, no, he is after woman, that's all.
Yadubara: Afterwards he said his ego was very large. He said he had a big ego.
Prabhupāda: Eagle? Eagle bird.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, ego, ego.
Prabhupāda: Ego, oh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He admitted he had a very big ego.
Prabhupāda: But who cares for you?
Yadubara: He said he was trying to do away with it.
Prabhupāda: But your beard is growing more and more. (break) He said that "I say to my disciples that if you have to take instruction, that is Bhaktivedanta Prabhu." He said that.
Rādhā-vallabha: What is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If you want to take instruction, go to Bhaktivedanta. Then why doesn't he go to Bhaktivedanta?
Prabhupāda: No, he comes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Yeah, you are not going to him. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . .first came to me, that "We are trying to establish universal brotherhood." You were not present. Who was present? I said, "It is all bogus. You will never be able to do it." Immediately I told him, "It is all bogus. You will never be able to do."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I noticed, Śrīla Prabhupāda, in your conversation with him that there was some mention that the Vedas were the universal doctrine. So he mentioned, I think, that his. . . What is that book they have? The Guru-grantha could also be accepted as universal. And I think you said something that it was only a branch.
Prabhupāda: Yes.