Dr. Patel: Kaśyapa, gods and demons. By their behavior one sect became demons, no?
Prabhupāda: Eh? Yes. Vyāvahāreṇa jāyante. Canakya Paṇḍita has said na kaścid kasyacid mitro na kaścid kasyacid ripuḥ, vyāvahāreṇa jāyante: "Who is friend and who is enemy, it can be understood by the behavior." Vyāvahāreṇa jāyante mitrāṇi ripavas tathā.
Dr. Patel: By their... When there is coming action, then you find out who is friend and who is enemy.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) This is very nice hell.
Dr. Patel: Now all that society, any decent(?) society.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Dr. Patel: That Mr. Nair...
Prabhupāda: Mr. Nair also, in Calcutta, many times. (break)
Dr. Patel: Irish or English?
Prabhupāda: No, Irish. He established the Home Rule, Home Rule Party, in India.
Dr. Patel: And he fell off from Gandhi's movement.
Prabhupāda: Hm. Go on. (break) ...rāga of love. When one goes to see his beloved and thinks so many things, "I'll do this, I'll do this, I'll do this," that is pūrva-rāga. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (break) ...gopīs as krūra, not Akrūra.
Dr. Patel: Yes, because he was taking away Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma from there. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ. Kṛṣṇa recognizes immediately who preaches the gospel of Bhagavad-gītā. Yes.
Dr. Patel: Shall we go back? (break)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi conversation) (break) ...uncle, His father's cousin.
Dr. Patel: Uddhava was His cousin.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...kabe śuddha ha'be mana, kabe hāma herabo, śrī vṛndāvana.
Dr. Patel: This is Bengali, Bengali.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yadubara: "When my mind will be purified after leaving the..." (break)
Prabhupāda: ...Vaiṣṇava kavi has sung,
viṣaya chāriyā, se rase mājīyā,
- mukhe bala hari hari
Unless you are free from the material desires, you cannot enjoy what is the celestial or spiritual bliss in chanting the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra. If one has got material desires, he cannot enjoy.