Prabhupāda: Yes. Common sense. And we are practically experiencing. When the child has grown to become young man, the mother does not cry, "Oh, my child is gone, my child is gone." She knows, she knows that, "Here is my child. Simply he has changed his body." So this is a fact, that we are changing body but we are eternal. This is the conclusion. Tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati (BG 2.13). So unless one is properly educated, where is the talk of advancing? So this is the beginning of spiritual education, to understand that the living entity is eternal and the body is changing. And then next question will be that if the body is changing, then this body will be changed, so after my death what kind of body I am going to accept? That is education. That is education. And if I remain blind, I do not care, and next life I became a dog, then what is the value of my present education? In spite of all education, next life I am going to become a dog or tree, then what is the value of my education? That education is not. Throughout the whole world, perhaps we are giving this education. Throughout the whole world, find out any institution or university where this education is given. No. Simply big, big talks. And you talk something nonsense and take laureate, Nobel Laureate. That's all. It is going on. Somebody is talking nonsense that life is produced from matter, from chemicals, and if we challenge, "All right, combine some matter in egg form and bring life," that rascal will say: "No, it will take millions of years." And if the bird is giving life in five days, why you are taking doctorate title? Give the chicken doctorate title. The rascals are simply bluffing the people. This is going on in the name of education. Can anyone produce life by combination of chemical? And these rascals are advertising. We challenge, "All right, not very big thing. Egg, you can see there is some white substance and yellow substance, and you are very big scientist, you find out what are the chemicals and combine it and put it under the legs of the chicken or in the incubator and bring life. Otherwise, why you are talking nonsense and cheating people?" Not only cheating people; people are becoming godless. Everything is science. And the science is this, cheating, that life can be produced by chemicals.
Dr. Sharma: The problem is the definition of life. It has not yet been defined, and the definition of life accepted by them is not the real definition of life.
Prabhupāda: The definition of life they have given: resistance. If you want to come to kill me, I resist. That is life. Everyone knows it.
Hari-śauri: (whispering) Śrīla Prabhupāda, it's a quarter to nine.
Prabhupāda: That is life. If I want to cut this table, it will not resist. But if you want to kill me, I'll resist. That is life. Where is the difficulty?
Dr. Sharma: No, the way we understand, there is no difficulty. The way scientists understand there is a lot of difficulty.
Prabhupāda: What is that scientist? What is their definition? What do they say?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Svarūpa Dāmodara?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Life is a . . . they say the question "What is life?" should not be inquired. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Ah, that is . . . you keep yourself in darkness. You remain fool. That is scientific. So long you remain a rascal, it is scientific. This is their . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They say it is unscientific question.
Prabhupāda: And because they cannot answer it, bobā śatru naya. In Bengali, if one is dumb, he has no enemy, but he cannot speak anything. Tāvac śobhate mūrkha yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate. Mūrkha tāvicac śobha. So mūrkha, you remain mūrkha, then that is scientific.
Dr. Sharma: Kapila has said (sanskrit).
Prabhupāda: So don't ask for life, eh? That is scientific. Do you think it is all right?
Dr. Sharma: No, as a scientist, I don't believe that.
Prabhupāda: Then this is going on. They cannot do anything, and still they are drawing high salary. Especially when they say that life is made of chemicals and they cannot experimentally prove it. How bluffing it is. We say simple thing that, "Don't talk of big, big life. You just produce from the egg, because egg, you require so many chicken to cut their throat. So produce it from chemical." Why do they not do it? Is anyone to answer this? If life is chemical combination, you see in the egg there is some white substance, some yellow substance, so you analyze and find out what are the chemicals and combine it, and color it yellow and pack up in a cellulose cover, and then put it, bring life. Why they cannot do it? Where is the science? Simply talking big, big words? What do you think? Am I right or wrong?
Mr. Boyd: What do I think? Well, it's very difficult at this particular time. It hasn't been done yet; hasn't been claimed, as you say. And yet we as individuals request them to do that, for some reason, because we're curious.
Prabhupāda: Yes, unless they do that, what is the use? What is the use of your big, big talking?
Vipina: He's thinking that sometime they'll do it in the future.
Prabhupāda: Therefore he should not become scientist. The chicken is doing it within five days. (laughter) You transfer your doctorate, laureate, to the chicken. You are cheating others. Give the title to the chicken.
Guest (2): If and when Kṛṣṇa wants the scientists to come up with the answer, then is when . . . only when they'll have the answer. When Kṛṣṇa wants them to have the answer.
Prabhupāda: But Kṛṣṇa has already given to the chicken. (laughter) He's so unfortunate that Kṛṣṇa is not giving him the intelligence. He's so unfortunate. But the fortunate chicken has already got the intelligence. So at least the chicken is fortunate than these so-called scientists. That is our conclusion. He's so unfortunate that he doesn't get the fortune of the chicken. Mūḍho nābhijānāti loko mām ajam avyayam (BG 7.25). He's a mūḍha, rascal. That's all. He's claiming something which is impossible. That is mūḍha. If somebody, if a child, sometimes childish nature, "Mother, give me that moon," is it possible mother can give the moon to the child? So mother cheats him. She gives him a mirror, "You see, here is mirror, moon here." That's all. But is that moon? So child may be satisfied with this class of moon, but one who is sane man, his father, will not be satisfied. It is impossible. We give this challenge to any scientist that, "You are unnecessarily, uselessly working to produce life from chemicals." That is our challenge.