User contributions for Visnu Murti
1 May 2024
- 14:0314:03, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 Regarding using our Temple for marriage ceremonies for the Hindu community, if they contribute something to the Temple they can use the Temple and perform the marriage with their own priest No edit summary current
- 14:0314:03, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 Perhaps it is a new thing I have introduced, that I take part in the marriage ceremony of my disciples. Actually, I do it because I want to see them without any anxiety No edit summary current
- 14:0314:03, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 One should not misunderstand when a sannyasi takes part in a marriage ceremony. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Nityananda Prabhu took great pleasure in hearing about the marriage ceremony between the young brahmana and the daughter of the elderly brahmana No edit summary current
- 14:0214:02, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 Marriage arrangements and ceremonies belong to ordinary material karma-kanda sections of the scriptures. The Vaisnavas, however, are not interested in any kind of karma-kanda dealings No edit summary current
- 14:0214:02, 1 May 2024 diff hist −23 Lord Brahma is worshiped in marriage ceremonies. In India even today, wedding invitations are still issued with a picture of Lord Brahma on the face of the card No edit summary current
- 14:0114:01, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 Just as we sometimes perform a marriage ceremony in the temple. What is this marriage ceremony? It is the combination of man & woman, boy & girl. They are already there they are living like friends - what is the use of this marriage ceremony? It is Vedic No edit summary current
- 14:0114:01, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 Just as Baladeva knocked out the teeth of Dantavakra, the King of Kalinga, during the gambling match at the marriage ceremony of Aniruddha, Virabhadra knocked out the teeth of both Daksa, who had shown them while cursing Lord Siva No edit summary current
- 14:0014:00, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 It is mentioned in the Padma Purana, Maharaja Nanda & the cowherd boys of Vrndavana joined the marriage ceremony. Kings from the kingdoms of Kuru, Srnjaya, Kekaya, Vidarbha, Kunti all came to Dvaraka on this occasion & met with one another very joyfully No edit summary current
- 14:0014:00, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 In the Vedic system of marriage, the bride's father receives the large party of the bridegroom and accommodates them in a suitable place for two or three days until the marriage ceremony is performed No edit summary current
- 13:5913:59, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 In the second part of the Gopala-campu, known as Uttara-campu, the following subject matters are discussed: (35) the marriage ceremony of Srimati Radharani and Krsna; (36) the meeting of Srimati Radharani and Krsna; and (37) entering Goloka No edit summary current
- 13:5913:59, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 In the case of Satadruti, however, she was so beautiful that she attracted the whole universe at her marriage ceremony. Indeed, she attracted all the learned and exalted demigods simply by the tinkling of her ankle bells No edit summary current
- 13:5913:59, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 In household life one is ordered to execute many yajnas and fruitive activities, especially the vivaha-yajna (the marriage ceremony for sons and daughters) and the sacred thread ceremony No edit summary current
- 13:5813:58, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 In flattering a woman, in joking, in a marriage ceremony, in earning one's livelihood, when one's life is in danger, in protecting cows and brahminical culture, or in protecting a person from an enemy's hand, falsity is never condemned No edit summary current
- 13:5813:58, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 In every civilized human society there is a ceremony called marriage. And that is also Vedic system, that one should not have any illicit sex life, but one should be combined according to religious rite and live peacefully and execute Krsna consciousness No edit summary current
- 13:5713:57, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 I like this marriage ceremony because it has given practical proof of my ideas that boys and girls of this country better be married and engaged in preaching work No edit summary current
- 13:5713:57, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 I have full sanction for the marriage of Naranarayana, and you can perform the ceremony on my behalf No edit summary current
- 13:5713:57, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 Everyone, at least all the presidents, should be experienced in performing marriage ceremonies No edit summary current
- 13:5613:56, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 Buddhimanta Khan personally defrayed all the expenditures for the marriage (between Lord Caitanya and Visnupriya) ceremony No edit summary current
- 13:5513:55, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 At one marriage ceremony in N.Y. Rupanuga had the boy and girl both sign documents saying that they promised never to separate under any circumstances. So you can correspond with him and do likewise No edit summary current
- 13:5513:55, 1 May 2024 diff hist +9 As there are professional singers, dancers and reciters of prayers in the heavenly planets, so in India still there are professional dancers, blessers and singers, all of whom assemble together during householder ceremonies, especially marriages & birth No edit summary
- 13:5413:54, 1 May 2024 diff hist −13 Animals do not marry but they have sex life, so that means you are animal. You’re not human being. The answer should be like that. Because marriage, this ceremony is not for fun No edit summary current
28 April 2024
- 05:2005:20, 28 April 2024 diff hist +50 That is the real presence. Physical presence is not important No edit summary current
27 April 2024
- 10:2110:21, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 In flattering a woman to bring her under control, in a marriage ceremony, in earning one's livelihood, when one's life is in danger, in protecting cows and brahminical culture, or in protecting a person from an enemy's hand, falsity is never condemned No edit summary current
- 10:2110:21, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 In any auspicious ceremony, such as a marriage ceremony, sacrificial ceremony or puja ceremony, it is auspicious for married women to decorate themselves very nicely with ornaments, fine clothing and cosmetics. These are auspicious signs No edit summary current
- 10:2010:20, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 Hearing of this (Jagannatha Misra wanted to find a girl and arrange a marriage ceremony for Visvarupa), Visvarupa immediately left home and went away to accept sannyasa and travel from one place of pilgrimage to another No edit summary current
- 10:2010:20, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 Finally, after inquiring, they (bridegroom's party) found that despite the boatmen's rowing, the boat had not moved because they had failed to raise the anchor. The marriage ceremony was thus spoiled because of a foolish mistake No edit summary current
- 10:2010:20, 27 April 2024 diff hist +9 Enmity always blazed in Rukmi's heart because of his having been insulted by Krsna's kidnapping of his sister, Rukmini, Rukmi could not resist consenting to the marriage ceremony just to please Rukmini when his daughter selected Pradyumna as her husband No edit summary current
- 10:1910:19, 27 April 2024 diff hist +9 Dama means curbing down, and ghosa means famous; so he was famous for controlling the citizens. Damaghosa thought that if Krsna came to disturb the marriage ceremony, he would certainly cut Him down with his military power No edit summary current
- 10:1810:18, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 According to the Vedic system, when a girl is married, she is very profusely and gorgeously decorated with costly saris and jewelry, and during the marriage ceremony the bride circumambulates the bridegroom seven times No edit summary current
- 10:1810:18, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 A sannyasi may perform a marriage ceremony to help his disciple in the advancement of Krsna consciousness. If one renounces such activities, it is to be understood that he is acting in the mode of darkness. BG 1972 purports No edit summary current
- 10:1710:17, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 Both parties, the girl's father and the boy's father, will spend. Still in India, there are cases like that. They'll spend their hard-earned money during the marriage ceremony of their son and daughter No edit summary current
- 10:1710:17, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 At the present moment no one can perform the proper ritual of sacrifice, nor can anyone afford to pay for the marriage ceremony of sons and daughters. Therefore householders are very much distressed when they are confronted by these social duties No edit summary current
- 10:1710:17, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 As a matter of duty, the King (Bhismaka) was decorating the city for the marriage ceremony and acting in great earnestness to make it very successful. Water was sprinkled all over the streets, and the city was cleansed very nicely No edit summary current
- 10:1410:14, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 All things befitting the marriage ceremony of an emperor's daughter were awarded to Kardama Muni, who was until now observing celibacy as a brahmacari. The bride, Devahuti, was very richly dressed with ornaments and clothing No edit summary current
- 10:1410:14, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 After this (during the marriage ceremony the bride circumambulates the bridegroom seven times), the bridegroom and bride look at one another and become attracted for life No edit summary current
- 10:1410:14, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 After the marriage ceremony was performed, the Lord informed both brahmanas, "You two brahmanas are My eternal servants, birth after birth" No edit summary current
- 10:0810:08, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m To mortgage your present house is not at all good. There is a Bengali saying that one should not borrow money to purchase a gold earring. So I do not approve of this mortgaging transaction Visnu Murti moved page To mortgage your present house is not at all good. There is a Bengali saying that one should not borrow money to purchase a gold earring. So I(Srila Prabhupada) do not approve of this mortgaging transaction to To mortgage your present house is not at all good. There is a Bengali saying that one should not borrow money to purchase a gold earring. So I do not approve of this mortgaging transaction current
- 10:0710:07, 27 April 2024 diff hist +82 To mortgage your present house is not at all good. There is a Bengali saying that one should not borrow money to purchase a gold earring. So I do not approve of this mortgaging transaction No edit summary
- 10:0410:04, 27 April 2024 diff hist +19 To mortgage your present house is not at all good. There is a Bengali saying that one should not borrow money to purchase a gold earring. So I do not approve of this mortgaging transaction No edit summary
- 10:0210:02, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m I shall request you with all humility to co-operate with this mission and thus be benefited yourself. It is not the least exaggeration but actual fact and to become a member for this mission will to your own interest Visnu Murti moved page I (Srila Prabhupada) shall request you with all humility to co-operate with this mission and thus be benefited yourself. It is not the least exaggeration but actual fact and to become a member for this mission will to your own interest to I shall request you with all humility to co-operate with this mission and thus be benefited yourself. It is not the least exaggeration but actual fact and to become a member for this mission will to your own interest current
- 10:0110:01, 27 April 2024 diff hist +82 I shall request you with all humility to co-operate with this mission and thus be benefited yourself. It is not the least exaggeration but actual fact and to become a member for this mission will to your own interest No edit summary
- 09:5509:55, 27 April 2024 diff hist +33 Sometimes we are criticized because although I am a sannyasi, I have taken part in the marriage ceremonies of my disciples No edit summary current
- 09:5409:54, 27 April 2024 diff hist −13 A sannyasi should not take part in a marriage ceremony between a young boy and a young girl. However, this is not a karma-kanda activity, because our purpose is to spread the Krsna consciousness movement No edit summary current
- 09:5009:50, 27 April 2024 diff hist +41 Sometimes we are criticized because although I am (Srila Prabhupada) a sannyasi, I have taken part in the marriage ceremonies of my disciples No edit summary
- 09:4609:46, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m My father used to observe all the ceremonies befitting my position. Later on, these activities were suspended due to my association in the schools and colleges, and I became completely out of practice Visnu Murti moved page My (Srila Prabhupada's) father used to observe all the ceremonies befitting my position. Later on, these activities were suspended due to my association in the schools and colleges, and I became completely out of practice to My father used to observe all the ceremonies befitting my position. Later on, these activities were suspended due to my association in the schools and colleges, and I became completely out of practice current
- 09:4609:46, 27 April 2024 diff hist +35 My father used to observe all the ceremonies befitting my position. Later on, these activities were suspended due to my association in the schools and colleges, and I became completely out of practice No edit summary
- 09:4109:41, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m I wish to die in the last days of my life at Vrindaban. If you (Sumati Morarjee) kindly, therefore, cooperate with my mission of spreading Krishna Consciousness in the western world, then I wish to return to Vrindaban Visnu Murti moved page I (Srila Prabhupada) wish to die in the last days of my life at Vrindaban. If you (Sumati Morarjee) kindly, therefore, cooperate with my mission of spreading Krishna Consciousness in the western world, then I wish to return to Vrindaban to I wish to die in the last days of my life at Vrindaban. If you (Sumati Morarjee) kindly, therefore, cooperate with my mission of spreading Krishna Consciousness in the western world, then I wish to return to Vrindaban current
- 09:4009:40, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m I am pleased that my generous father gave the first impression which was developed later into regulative devotional service by His Divine Grace Visnu Murti moved page I (Srila Prabhupada) am pleased that my generous father gave the first impression which was developed later into regulative devotional service by His Divine Grace to I am pleased that my generous father gave the first impression which was developed later into regulative devotional service by His Divine Grace current
- 09:3909:39, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m In a playful manner, I used to worship these Deities along with my sister, and I used to imitate the performances of a neighboring temple of Radha-Govinda Visnu Murti moved page In a playful manner, I (Srila Prabhupada) used to worship these Deities along with my sister, and I used to imitate the performances of a neighboring temple of Radha-Govinda to In a playful manner, I used to worship these Deities along with my sister, and I used to imitate the performances of a neighboring temple of Radha-Govinda current
- 09:3709:37, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m I don't get any time to go into seclusion. My Guru Maharaja also did not approve of seclusion. He used to say: Dusta mana, tumi kisera Vaisnava? Visnu Murti moved page I(Srila Prabhupada) don't get any time to go into seclusion. My Guru Maharaja also did not approve of seclusion. He used to say: Dusta mana, tumi kisera Vaisnava? to I don't get any time to go into seclusion. My Guru Maharaja also did not approve of seclusion. He used to say: Dusta mana, tumi kisera Vaisnava? current
- 09:3709:37, 27 April 2024 diff hist +9 I don't get any time to go into seclusion. My Guru Maharaja also did not approve of seclusion. He used to say: Dusta mana, tumi kisera Vaisnava? No edit summary
- 09:3509:35, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m By constantly visiting this neighboring temple and copying the ceremonies in connection with my own Deities of play, I developed a natural affinity for the Lord Visnu Murti moved page By constantly visiting this neighboring temple and copying the ceremonies in connection with my (Srila Prabhupada's) own Deities of play, I developed a natural affinity for the Lord to By constantly visiting this neighboring temple and copying the ceremonies in connection with my own Deities of play, I developed a natural affinity for the Lord current
- 09:3309:33, 27 April 2024 diff hist 0 m Swamis like Vivekananda or others who came here before me, manufactured their own ideological religion and that is not in conformity of the Bhagavad-gita Visnu Murti moved page Swamis like Vivekananda or others who came here before me (Srila Prabhupada), manufactured their own ideological religion and that is not in conformity of the Bhagavad-gita to Swamis like Vivekananda or others who came here before me, manufactured their own ideological religion and that is not in conformity of the Bhagavad-gita current
26 April 2024
- 19:0619:06, 26 April 2024 diff hist +9 Two different principles are to be considered herein (CC Adi 2.91.92) - namely asraya, the object providing shelter, and asrita, the dependents requiring shelter. The asrita exist under the original principle, the asraya No edit summary current
- 19:0619:06, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The Vedic principles are to help us understand this eternal relation as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah. The Lord says that the purpose of the Vedas is to understand Him. BG 1972 purports No edit summary current
- 19:0519:05, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The worshipers of various demigods also worship the Supreme Lord, but they do so against the regulative principles. The purpose of the regulative principles is to satisfy Lord Visnu. In the Visnu Purana (3.8.9) the very same thing is confirmed No edit summary current
- 19:0519:05, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The highest life of moral principles is to become a devotee of the Lord because a pure devotee of the Lord has all the good qualities of the Lord No edit summary current
- 19:0119:01, 26 April 2024 diff hist +4 The demons said "Foundation of the strength of the demigods is Lord Visnu, because the ultimate goal of all religious principles is to satisfy Him" No edit summary current
- 19:0119:01, 26 April 2024 diff hist +4 Nor is religion without God religion, because the purpose of following religious principles is to know the Supreme Truth and man's relation with Him. BG 1972 purports No edit summary current
- 19:0019:00, 26 April 2024 diff hist +29 The demons said "Foundation of the strength of the demigods is Lord Visnu, because the ultimate goal of all religious principles is to satisfy Him" No edit summary
- 18:5818:58, 26 April 2024 diff hist +29 Nor is religion without God religion, because the purpose of following religious principles is to know the Supreme Truth and man's relation with Him. BG 1972 purports No edit summary
- 18:5018:50, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 We are not going to develop a competitive farming enterprise for making money. The basic principle is to become independent of artificial city life, working in factories producing nut and bolts No edit summary
- 18:5018:50, 26 April 2024 diff hist +9 This kriya-yoga or karma-yoga, as recommended by Sri Narada to Vyasa, is specifically recommended because the principle is to satisfy the Lord No edit summary current
- 18:4918:49, 26 April 2024 diff hist +35 The Vedic principle is to restrict sense gratification under certain rules and regulations. So the animal sacrifice is also restricted in that way No edit summary current
- 18:4918:49, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The Vedic principle is that one should avoid sex life altogether. The whole Vedic principle is to get liberation from material bondage No edit summary current
- 18:4818:48, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The real principle is to spread the Krsna consciousness movement, and if one has to change into regular Western dress for this purpose, there should be no objection No edit summary current
- 18:4818:48, 26 April 2024 diff hist +9 The principle is to understand things in reality one has to approach Krsna as Arjuna has approached No edit summary current
- 18:4718:47, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The Lord says that anyone who worships the demigods is also worshiping Him, but he is worshiping avidhi-purvakam, which means "without following the regulative principles." The regulative principle is to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead No edit summary current
- 18:4718:47, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 The art of managing is to do all things at once in a nice manner, and the guiding principle is to do whatever is practical for preaching KC and at the same time maintaining our high standards of routine KC practices No edit summary current
- 18:4318:43, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 There is actually only one religious principle: dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam (SB 6.3.19). The only religious principle is to follow the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead No edit summary current
- 18:4318:43, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 There are four varnas and four asramas, which divide human society, but the central principle is to become a first-class pure devotee No edit summary current
- 18:4218:42, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 So far we are concerned, our principle is to live with God as actual fact, and not to make God a supplying agent No edit summary current
- 18:4218:42, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 So far as possible, remain separate and talk almost nil. Brahmacari is advised not to go near a young woman anywhere. A brahmacari should always address every woman as mother. In your country it is a little difficult, but the principle is to avoid No edit summary current
- 18:4118:41, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 Our Vedic system is to first of all train a boy as a brahmacari - no sex life. The Vedic principle is to reduce attachment, not to increase it. Therefore the whole system is called varnasrama-dharma No edit summary current
- 18:4118:41, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 Our principle is to study the books as well as to distribute the books. People will be benefited and their life will be successful No edit summary current
- 18:4118:41, 26 April 2024 diff hist +9 Our principle is to follow the footprints of authorities. So these things are not unauthorized. These are being followed from time immemorial. This dress, this tilaka, this chanting. Everything No edit summary current
- 18:3218:32, 26 April 2024 diff hist +79 Our general principle is to perform sankirtana, not to talk philosophy. When one is interested, then he can talk philosophy. Otherwise this talk should be amongst inner circles, with the students and the teacher, those who are submissive No edit summary current
- 18:2318:23, 26 April 2024 diff hist +79 Our general principle is to perform sankirtana, not to talk philosophy. When one is interested, then he can talk philosophy. Otherwise this talk should be amongst inner circles, with the students and the teacher, those who are submissive No edit summary
- 18:2118:21, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 One should avoid sex life altogether. The whole Vedic principle is to get liberation from this material bondage. And there are different attachments for this material enjoyment, out of which sex life is the source of topmost enjoyment No edit summary current
- 18:2118:21, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 Narada Muni has already described the principles of life for a brahmacari, vanaprastha and sannyasi, and now (in SB 7.14.2) he is describing how a grhastha should live. The basic principle is to satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead No edit summary current
- 18:1518:15, 26 April 2024 diff hist +35 Lord Buddha preached ahimsa paramo dharmah: "The best religious principle is to become nonviolent" No edit summary current
- 18:1518:15, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 If your conviction is strong and evidential, then try to convince them of your ideas for spreading Krsna Consciousness. Our principle is to simply repeat what we have in our books No edit summary current
- 18:1218:12, 26 April 2024 diff hist +20 He (one who is engaged in devotional service) has to eat krsna-prasada. He has to sleep according to regulated principles. The principle is to reduce the duration of sleep and to reduce eating, taking only what is needed to keep the body fit No edit summary current
- 18:1018:10, 26 April 2024 diff hist +33 Demons, they are too much attached to material enjoyment, bhoga and aisvarya. So they cannot take to it. Therefore our general principle is to perform sankirtana, not to talk philosophy No edit summary current
- 18:0918:09, 26 April 2024 diff hist +67 As stated in the Bhagavad-gita, the highest religious principle is to surrender to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Srimad-Bhagavatam also confirms that the topmost perfection of religion is to be engaged in the devotional service of the Lord No edit summary current
- 18:0618:06, 26 April 2024 diff hist +2 Category:The Principle Is To No edit summary current
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- 18:0518:05, 26 April 2024 diff hist +10 Principle is to... No edit summary current
- 17:5817:58, 26 April 2024 diff hist +11 The rajas stage of life gives a slight clue to the realization of the Absolute Truth in the forms of fine sentiments in philosophy, art and culture with moral and ethical principles No edit summary current
- 17:5717:57, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 These (moral and ethical) principles develop further into religious consciousness, leading to an imaginary conception of God without any practical realization of the truth No edit summary current
- 17:5717:57, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 They are manufacturing their own ways of understanding Bible and ethical principles. Therefore it is becoming valueless. It is becoming valueless. No value. One cannot change the words of the authority No edit summary current
- 17:5717:57, 26 April 2024 diff hist +11 People all over the world, especially in India, have forgotten their relationship with SPG and His eternal servants. Therefore the principles of morality, religion and ethics have almost disappeared. This situation is most unprofitable for human society No edit summary current
- 17:5617:56, 26 April 2024 diff hist +30 We are not interested in the matter of general principles of morality, social culture, ethics. They are required, but because this material world means it is a infected world, so here in this material world, so-called morality is infected No edit summary current
- 17:5517:55, 26 April 2024 diff hist +11 We are not interested in the matter of general principles of morality, social culture, ethics. They are required, but because this material world means it is a infected world, so here in this material world, so-called morality is infected No edit summary
- 17:5417:54, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 One who does not know this subtle law of fruitive activities and who thus gives up the moral and ethical principles carries with him only the reactions of his sinful activities No edit summary current
- 17:5417:54, 26 April 2024 diff hist +11 Human beings advance toward God consciousness when they go beyond the gross materialistic life of eating, sleeping, fearing, and mating and begin to develop moral and ethical principles No edit summary current
- 17:5417:54, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 Either in religious scripture or by law books or by morality or ethical principle, they are taught to the human, civilized human society No edit summary current
- 17:5417:54, 26 April 2024 diff hist +8 Art and culture with moral and ethical principles No edit summary current
- 17:5317:53, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 Akrura said, "My dear son of Vicitravirya, you have unlawfully usurped the throne of the Pandavas. Anyway, somehow or other you are now on the throne. Therefore I (Akrura) beg to advise you to please rule the kingdom on moral and ethical principles" No edit summary current
- 17:5317:53, 26 April 2024 diff hist −13 Akrura continued, "If you (Dhrtarastra) do so (to rule the kingdom on moral and ethical principles) and try to please your subjects in that way, your name and fame will be perpetual" No edit summary current