Prabhupāda: So anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's māyayāpahṛta-jñāna (BG 7.15). He's a (indistinct). He's madman. Actually everyone is mad. That is the medical report.
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Prabhupāda: Do they give some present? No.
Kīrtirāja: Not some present, but even..., even the policemen, they are stopping the traffic, especially when they see the devotees coming. In Calcutta we saw. We were driving from Germany with Gargamuni Mahārāja in those six vans, and the policemen were especially stopping the traffic so that we could come through. And in New York also, the policemen on the street, they are dancing.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā?
Kīrtirāja: When the saṅkīrtana party is coming, sometimes they are raising their arms and they are dancing also, because they see that we are..., that this movement is not like the other movements. The others, they are just staying hippies, and now they are... They have some guru.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) These rascal gurus...