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We say caste, but varnasrama. Varna. Anyway, it is division. That division, vibhaga, the exact word is "division," not "caste." Or you can say caste, there is no difference? Division, these 4 divisions are there. So these divisions are not made by birth

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"We say caste, but varṇāśrama. Varṇa. Anyway, it is division. That division, vibhāga, the exact word is" |"Or you can say caste, there is no difference? Division, these four divisions are there. So these divisions are not made by birth"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1971 Conversations and Morning Walks

Prabhupāda: Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). Not by birth. Kṛṣṇa never says.

Reporter: (indistinct) . . . the caste.

Prabhupāda: No, no. These four castes. Not caste. We say caste, but varṇāśrama. Varṇa. Anyway, it is division. That division, vibhāga, the exact word is "division," not "caste." Or you can say caste, there is no difference? Division, these four divisions are there. So these divisions are not made by birth. Just like if you are a lawyer.

Prabhupāda: Maybe your Hinduism. You lick up your Hinduism. But we are creating real Brāhmin all over the world.

Reporter: I can see. What Lord Kṛṣṇa has stated, sir that, "I have created these four castes of āśrama . . ."

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Reporter: And I as myself, just, as not somebody told me, just my feel . . .

Prabhupāda: Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). Not by birth. Kṛṣṇa never says.

Reporter: (indistinct) . . . the caste.

Prabhupāda: No, no. These four castes. Not caste. We say caste, but varṇāśrama. Varṇa. Anyway, it is division. That division, vibhāga, the exact word is "division," not "caste." Or you can say caste, there is no difference? Division, these four divisions are there. So these divisions are not made by birth. Just like if you are a lawyer.

So in the society there are lawyers, engineers, medical men—they are divisions. But these lawyers, medical men or engineers, they are not born as engineer or as lawyer. That is mistake. Anyone who is qualified by the real knowledge, he is a lawyer. Not by birth. Suppose a lawyer's son, a big, big lawyer's son, does it mean that he's lawyer?

Reporter: No. But this is what we have been told.

Prabhupāda: So you have been (told) something mistake. That should not be accepted.

Reporter: Well, sir, you should know the problem all that there is a . . .

Prabhupāda: What is that problem?

Reporter: All the tribal men, harijanas, they are claiming . . .

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Reporter: If you proclaim that this is the real Hinduism, the people are getting fed up with Hinduism.

Prabhupāda: No. No. Why you are bringing Hinduism?

Reporter: Our this system . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Reporter: . . . is only by Hindu . . .

Prabhupāda: No, no. Hinduism is a foreign word, given by the Muslim. We don't find any word "Hindus" in the Vedic literature. Why do you call Hinduism? We are not preaching Hinduism. We are preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Page Title:We say caste, but varnasrama. Varna. Anyway, it is division. That division, vibhaga, the exact word is "division," not "caste." Or you can say caste, there is no difference? Division, these 4 divisions are there. So these divisions are not made by birth
Compiler:Nabakumar
Created:2022-10-06, 10:43:50
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1