Prabhupāda: They kill the grandfather and have a feast, the cannibals. Yes. That is a great sport, that the grandsons will kill the grandfather and have a feast on his body by toasting.(?) Yes. The same idea is being preached by the communists. They want that all old man of the society, they should be killed. That is one of the theories put forward by the communists. Because they are not producing anything. So just imagine, these things will come gradually. So better to leave this place as soon as possible. Not to come again. That should be our serious attention. The other day the radio man was asking, "Swamiji, how to adjust?" "And there is no adjustment. You have to go out of the scene. There is no adjustment." So he was not very happy. If I would have bluffed him, "Oh, you do this, you do that, you do this humanitarian work, you spread(?) education and give foodstuff." No! There is no adjustment. The only adjustment is quit this place. That is the function of this human form of life. You can get out of this show by Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa says that this is the abode of miseries and that also temporary. Because you can accept any miserable life. That is the spell of māyā. Just like this dog life. If somebody asked me, "Would you like to be a dog? I can make you," shall I agree? Why not? Because I know that's miserable life. But the dog is satisfied. By becoming a purchased slave, very much satisfied. He has no independence, always chained and always servant, eternal servant of a particular man. He can do any harmful thing by the order of the master, he's so faithful. But still, his life is miserable because he's dog. But he is satisfied. He thinks that "Oh, it is a very nice life." This is called covering power of māyā, illusion. Anyone in the most miserable condition of life he'll think, "Oh, I am very happy." Ask him, "How are you?" "Oh, very nice. Very nice." So there is no adjustment.
Under the spell of... (Conversations)
Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
Journalist: There are. And they are demigods?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Journalist: How do you know this?
Prabhupāda: From our scripture, from Vedic literature.
Journalist: From what literature?
Prabhupāda: Vedic literature.
Journalist: How do you spell that?
Prabhupāda: V-e-d-i-c.
Journalist: Oh, Vedic. I beg your pardon.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Journalist: You'll forgive me if I...
Prabhupāda: That's all right, that doesn't...
Journalist: I don't mean to offend you.
Prabhupāda: Sometimes I do not follow your accent. That is difference of country. That doesn't matter. Yes.
1969 Conversations and Morning Walks
1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: That he does not know. He is a fool. He does not know what is a good result. He will change again. He is a rascal. He is putting himself in this condition; again he'll desire another condition. That is the change of body. That is his wanting. Sometimes he's taking the body of a dog, sometimes he is taking the body of a demigod. Bhramatam upary adhaḥ (1.5.18). Down, just like, what is that? Merry-go-round.
Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: Ferris wheel, ferris wheel goes up and down.
Prabhupāda: Sometimes "I am so up," and again come down. This is going on. Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān. Therefore, in this way, going round, one who is very, very fortunate, he, guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151), he comes to the devotional life by the mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa. This is the beginning of Caitanya Mahāprabhu's instruction. They are under the myth, under the spell of māyā. This is going on.
Prabhupāda: Misunderstood.
Professor Durckheim: Is something not very agreeable. It's all the authority like this, the not understanding, the not loving, the authority. You see? There are so many fathers who say in their family, "I don't know what you are talking about freedom. In my house everybody can do what I like." So they are very much under this spell today. So I just say this because it's very funny also in this trend of development of religion of today...
Prabhupāda: It is not religion. It is fact. It is not... Religion is sometimes explained as sentiment, but this is fact, that father and son... Without father there is no existence of son, and without son there is no meaning of father. This is science. This is not religion. This is science. As soon as you speak of father means he must have a son, or most. And as soon as a son, he must have a father. So this is a question of "must," not sentiment.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: So He is canvassing, "Now get up. How you are remaining in ignorance still? You have got this human form of body; still, you remain as cats and dogs. Why is that? This is spell of māyā. You get up." "No, I am very much... I cannot break out of this. Too much I am afflicted." Then he says, "I have got medicine." Enechi auṣadhi. "I have got the medicine. You take it." Enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāro lāgi', hari-nāma mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi'. "You take it from Me, hari-nāma mahā-mantra." So this is our mission. We have got the medicine to awake the people from this ignorance. He doesn't know anything. He is busy only with his fifty years. Nowadays less still, we live, such rascaldom we are. "We have got the medicine. Now you take it." This is our canvassing, Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. If you don't agree, that is your business. That is your misfortune. The disease is there, and the remedy is also there. So we offer you the remedy free of charges, and if you don't take it, then it should be understood that you are so misfortunate, unfortunate.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, certainly. That is the real friendship work. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu says,
- kota nidrā jāo māyā-piśācīra kole,
- enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāro lāgi'
- hari-nāma mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi'
This is friendship. "You are sleeping under the spell of māyā, and how long you will sleep and suffer in this material world? So I have brought this medicine. You take it and you will no more sleep."
- enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāro lāgi'
- hari-nāma mahā-mantra lao...
"Now take Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, this medicine."
- hari-nāma mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi'
Prabhupāda: That is yajña. To work for Kṛṣṇa means yajña. Yajñarthe karma: "For yajña, performing yajña, one has to work." To work for Kṛṣṇa means yajña. That is performance of yajña. (break) ...Communistic idea is borrowing this idea from... But because they are imperfect, they have made center, state. And because it is imperfect, it is not successful. They have made center the state. (break) Tamo-guṇa means laziness and sleep. The śūdras, they are in laziness and sleep. So if they have got something to eat, they will not work. Laziness. Or eat more and sleep. This is tamo-guṇa. And rajo-guṇa means they are working for sense gratification. That is also useless. Tamo-guṇa is laziness and sleeping, and rajo-guṇa means working foolishly or for sense gratification. And sattva-guṇa means they know how to work. And therefore above this sattva-guṇa they become devotee, work for Kṛṣṇa. So without working for Kṛṣṇa, everyone is under the spell of these modes of material nature. And there is no training how to work for Kṛṣṇa. That is the defect of modern civilization.
Prabhupāda: Yes, sidewalk is better.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Okay. A little bit hard on the...
Harikeśa: Did we pass by a park when we were coming?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We will check out some places today. (break) ...cold spell now.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: A cold spell. It's been cold the last few days. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...keepers are mostly Indians?
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Hari-śauri: When a person first comes to us he's coming voluntarily and he's not... At that stage he's not deprived of sleep, he's not deprived of eating. But still, he's coming, voluntarily. But when they take him away they have to take him by force.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: To change him.
Rāmeśvara: They say to break him of the spell. We have got a spell on him.
Prabhupāda: But why he again comes back? You could not break.
Rāmeśvara: Sometimes they cannot break, because we have planted our...
Prabhupāda: In most cases they come back.
Prabhupāda: Yes. As much as possible. Then I can prepare this medicine. And I know that is the medicine for my disease, punar navā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How do you spell that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: P-u-n-a-r n-a-v-ā.
Śatadhanya: Oh, punar navā.
Prabhupāda: Punar navā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's a plant?
Prabhupāda: It is a creeper. It is spread on the hill.
Page Title: | Under the spell of... (Conversations) |
Compiler: | Visnu Murti, Serene |
Created: | 24 of Mar, 2012 |
Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=13, Let=0 |
No. of Quotes: | 13 |