Hari-śauri: It doesn't give who is speaking, just the quotes. "The editor's vast and deep study of the subject and critical insight are reflected in these notes. We have no doubt that with the publication of these volumes of the rightful interpretations of the Bhāgavatam, which has been the gift of Śrī Caitanya and His Gosvāmī followers, has now been available to the English-knowing world for the first time. The elaborate method is very helpful to the ardent student of Bhāgavatam who lack in Sanskrit language. It is admitted in all hands that Bhāgavatam is the most difficult text amongst the Purāṇas. The author richly deserves the gratitude of the devotees for his pious learned labor of love." And another one. "These volumes speak very highly of Swamiji's scholarship, and especially of his love of cultural pursuits when we look into the enormous labor or sacrifice in producing them single-handed, and that too at a ripe old age of sixty-eight. We honestly pray to the Almighty that He may spare Swamiji for all the years he may require to finish the magnum opus of sixty volumes and earn the love and gratitude of his fellow men in pursuit of divine love and grace, nay of the entire humanity. You have done a first-class work and you deserve the hearty commendation of every Indian, every Hindu. Your deep and penetrating study of the subject and your philosophic insight are reflected in this book." etc., etc. That's the whole pamphlet.
Prabhupāda: Complete?
Hari-śauri: Yes. You used to give this pamphlet when you first came?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: There's a very nice picture.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Before coming here.
Hari-śauri: So you would be sixty-nine then?
Prabhupāda: Sixty-nine or seventy. (pause) Huh? Yes, this picture is nice.
Hari-śauri: Taken in Germany, I think.
Prabhupāda: Who is behind?
Hari-śauri: There's a, this is Haṁsadūta, Vedavyāsa, and then some of the devotees, saṅkīrtana devotees. You were making a joke. (break) But you were preaching before that in India though.
Prabhupāda: Not very much. Oh, yes, that Back to Godhead.
Hari-śauri: In Vṛndāvana you were just translating?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: The library party said that everywhere in Delhi they went, they found that you had already placed your three volumes of Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In American also. The Congress Library purchased nineteen sets.
Hari-śauri: Which library?
Prabhupāda: Congress Library.
Hari-śauri: Oh, Congress. The one in Washington? The Library of Congress?
Prabhupāda: Or there is a branch in India.
Hari-śauri: That is where they have your original Back to Godhead.
Prabhupāda: Maybe.
Hari-śauri: The first copy, they have it in Washington there.
Prabhupāda: American government is good organizations. (pause) From 1954 to '66 I struggled very hard. Alone.
Hari-śauri: Twelve years.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Twelve years means one yuga.
Hari-śauri: One...
Prabhupāda: One yuga. And big yuga, another.
Hari-śauri: One yuga?
Prabhupāda: Yes. In the ordinary.
Hari-śauri: Oh, the term is used differently? it can be used in different ways?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: We always think of one yuga as being like Kali-yuga, or...
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is a big yuga, this is small yuga.
Hari-śauri: It's very fortunate for us that you were so determined.
Prabhupāda: (long pause) They have got so many cars.
Hari-śauri: Actually, I think most of our centers have got many, many vans and cars.
Prabhupāda: That means they are rich.
Hari-śauri: Just like in India they used to measure wealth by how many cows, (laughs) in the West they measure wealth by how many cars.
Prabhupāda: And we have both. Cows and cars, both.
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So the devotees like this evening class?
Hari-śauri: They like?
Prabhupāda: Evening class.
Hari-śauri: Oh, yes, it's a very enlivening program. In the evening it's very nice out of doors. It's warm from the day. No one falls asleep. Except for the children, and that's very good because then they're quiet.
Prabhupāda: Small children, they also clap and dance on the lap of the mother, they were smiling. Very fortunate children, otherwise from the birth, associating with devotees... (long pause) Nowadays cheating is a good qualification, huh?
Hari-śauri: Yes. It's their only qualification.
Prabhupāda: If I cheat somebody and get some money, you are very expert.
Hari-śauri: Top-class businessman.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: First-class scientist. And the best politician. Just like in America, once they'd found Nixon was cheating, now they're investigating one man after another, and every one, they're finding all the same.
Prabhupāda: America, cheating is a policy. How a real estate man, lawyer, they're simply planning how to cheat.
Hari-śauri: The lawyers are the worst because they know the law. So they know how to cheat in such a way that they can stay within the law. They said Ambarīṣa's lawyer cheated us out of so many things when we got that Detroit property. (end)