Bhakti means that. Nitya-yuktā upāsana. Upāsana continues. Here they're upāsana. Here the devotees offering worship to the Deity, it is upāsana. And after being perfect, that upāsana will continue. It will never stop.
Prabhupāda: Now that individual soul and the Supreme Soul, Paramātmā, they are also different. That is described in the Bhagavad-gītā in the Second Chapter Kṛṣṇa says, "My dear Arjuna, both you, Me, and all these persons who are assembled here, we existed in the past, and we are existing now, and we shall continue to exist." So when they become one? Past, present and future. As they were different persons in the past, they are different persons now and they will continue to remain different persons in the future. So when they become one?
Indian man: Now we take it, small particles of water makes an ocean.
Prabhupāda: That cannot be. Here Kṛṣṇa says that we shall remain like this in the future.
Indian man: We can't get new to be...
Prabhupāda: No, there is no amalgamation. It is clearly stated.
Indian man: Even a drop of water, when you take it from the glass and put it on this one. Another drop of water will come and when you put it in medicine won't come in water. Like that, ātmā, will it not merge with the Paramātmā?
Prabhupāda: That water is matter, that is not spirit. But we are talking of spirit. You cannot bring matter. No, that analogy cannot be, because similarity. The water is different, matter. And you are talking of spirit souls. Here it is stated that the spirit soul individually, they'll never amalgamate. Acchedyo 'yam. They cannot be separated...
Indian man: Then what is the aim of bhakti if you are not going to merge with Paramātmā?
Prabhupāda: Bhakti... You try... You read carefully. Because you do not read, therefore... Nitya-yuktā upāsate. Nitya-yuktā upāsate. When they come to the point of nitya, there also the upāsana is there. One nitya is worshiping the other nitya. That is nitya-yuktā upāsate.
Indian man: Upāsana... Upāsana means...
Prabhupāda: Upāsana means upāsaka, upāsana and upāsita. Three things. As soon as you bring upāsana, there must be one person who is offering upāsana and there is a process of upāsana and the other person accepting upāsana.
Indian man (2): Then we're assuming that we're, actually the idea of śuddha-bhakti is...
Prabhupāda: Bhakti means that. Nitya-yuktā upāsana. Upāsana continues. Here they're upāsana. Here the devotees offering worship to the Deity, it is upāsana. And after being perfect, that upāsana will continue. It will never stop.
Indian man (2): It will never stop, that's the fact. That is that a man...
Prabhupāda: But Māyāvādī philosophy is that you offer upāsana now and when you are perfect you become one.
Indian man (2): Not one. I mean you merge with one. Not you become one. You merge with one.
Prabhupāda: Then there is no advaita-vāda. There is dvaita-vāda. Two. There is no advaita-vāda. If you accept that you remain different, then there is no advaita.
Indian man (2): We don't dare do you see, ācchā, at a particular stage you like to merge with Him?
Prabhupāda: Meeting, I am meeting you. That does not mean we have become one. You are meeting me, I am meeting you. So we are different.
Indian man (2): What is ultimate object of that bhakti?
Prabhupāda: Ultimate object is you are offering this flower—this is bhakti. But you are different than me.
Indian man (2): That's all right. That is all right. That bhakti, you can call it love, you can call it various things. Bhakti means surrender.
Prabhupāda: Bhakti means the process by which Bhagavān and bhakta interact. That is bhakti.
Indian man (2): That's all? He gains with that interaction?
Prabhupāda: Interaction. That does not mean bhakta and Bhagavān become equal.