Prabhupāda: (knock on door) Later on. Later on. (break)
Vedavyāsa: He's speaking of the gradual process of self-realization. First of all . . .
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Vedavyāsa: We are speaking of the gradual process of self-realization, first adopting these brahminical qualities and going further and further. So he asks if he's missing . . . if it's not possible to become illuminated at once by God's grace, to become converted without undergoing these . . .
Prabhupāda: Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That will do. Yes. You haven't got to undergo this or that. Simply chant and it will . . . you'll become perfect. So easiest. But still they will not accept. That is the difficulty. When you give the easiest way, they won't accept. Easiest way is we are recommending chant the holy name of God. So do it. (German comments) Not that you chant the name of Kṛṣṇa. You have got your name of God, you chant that. Begin that.
(break) Then how can I help you? There is name. You do not know. So our recommendation is—not my recommendation; from the Vedic literature, authoritative recommendation and the Bhagavad-gītā—satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Everything is there. You begin. Therefore I said in this age so many things is impossible to be done. But you begin chanting the holy name of God. Where is the difficulty?
Dr. P. J. Saher: To know the name. Because I . . .
Prabhupāda: To know. Why you are doubtful? There is name. If you do not know, take it from us. (chuckling) Why you deny that?
Dr. P. J. Saher: There's thousands and millions of . . .
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Here is one name. Why don't you take it?