Brahmānanda: The German scientist, he didn't want to come.
Prabhupāda: Why he avoids?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: He was thinking carefully and decided that he cannot defend what he has in his mind.
Prabhupāda: We are not ordinary, the so-called swamis and sādhus. We are going to give to the world something which they forgot. I told this in London airport. Yes. That was published in the papers. They asked me, "Why you have come to London?" And "Because to teach you something which you have forgotten."
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Is it before Prabhupāda came here.
Brahmānanda: In London.
Prabhupāda: In London. Here also I told in New York, "To make you intelligent. You are all fools and rascals." Yes, they are fools and rascals because they do not know what he is. He is thinking, "I am this body." So anyone who is thinking, "I am this body," he is an ass. That is stated in the Bhāgavata. Sa eva go-kharaḥ (SB 10.84.13).
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is the basis that life started from matter. They are thinking that this is the body.
Prabhupāda: Therefore we have to make very strong propaganda against this theory. Otherwise if you sleep only and take doctorate title, what is the use? You have to fight against these rascals. Make your soldier's party and start fighting against these rascals. No more toleration. No more silence.