Expressions researched:
"pretty"
Who are you, O pretty girl? Whose wife or daughter are you, and what can be the object of your appearing before us? Why do you tantalize us, unfortunate as we are, with the priceless commodity of your beauty?
Young man (6): Well, Ramakrishna is pretty recent also.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa, because He's old, therefore people have taken? People forget old things. Why they are adhering to the old things? At Vṛndāvana only, one place, there are five thousand temples of Kṛṣṇa. Only in Vṛndāvana. So this is all propaganda. We have to test who is incarnation, who is not, by the authorities.
Student (2): ...question you stated. If (we devote) time trying to figure out our relationship to God, perhaps that takes time away from trying to figure out our relationship with all men. And I think I would anticipate your answer, I think, upon the... You're talking about ātmā, and if one clearly has perception of the reality of their own ātmā, he would also see others as himself. Right? And to know his self and his God through others. But that doesn't really answer. It doesn't mean we'll be able to decrease that condition. A lot of people suffer in this world, and they suffer for pretty indefiable(?) reasons: economic exploitation, racists trying to put structures, militaristic powers. And it seems somehow we might be able to do something to attack those kinds of evils and suffering in the world, other than telling a man to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and the world will be solved.
Prabhupāda: That is automatically solved. If you chant, if you come to this God consciousness, those things will be automatically solved. Just like if you get million dollars, then your fifty dollars' business will be automatically solved.
Indian man (4): With the present state of the world as it is—it seems to be in a pretty mess—what would you say we are actually advancing spiritually?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "With the present state of the world, in the present mess that it's in today, would you say that we are advancing spiritually?"
Prabhupāda: No. Practically, the present state of the world means without any spiritual knowledge. We are blind; therefore it is very dangerous position. The spiritual knowledge we must have; otherwise we are doomed.
Hayagrīva: Mill is pretty much a, being a utilitarian, is pretty much a...
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, let us say...
Hayagrīva: ...is pretty much of a materialist, and a good man would work for what he called the greatest happiness principle, that is the greatest happiness for all sentient beings on earth.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Hayagrīva: So that would be the good man, would work toward that end.
Prabhupāda: So is there any man who can do good to all others? Is there any man? Any single instance?
Hayagrīva: A man is finite. How can he do good for everyone?
Prabhupāda: Then why does he say this man is good? He is bad in other sense. So how he can say this man is good?
Hayagrīva: Christ said that no man is good.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wouldn't you say that pretty much, that this philosophy is guiding a lot of the figures, the youth...?
Śyāmasundara: This is the most prevalent philosophy today, guiding people. It says that because God is dead, that we don't know where we came from, all we know is that we're here existing, the only way we can genuinely know ourself and exist authentically...
Prabhupāda: But our point is that we do not know genuinely. What we know, that is foolishness, that is asses' knowledge. Just like ass knows that "I am this body. I am the servant of this washerman." So this knowledge, like this. So he has made the decision. The ass has made this decision that "I shall take a morsel of grass and whole day I shall carry tons of cloth of this washerman." He has made this decision, that's all. Then is it that the decision is very nice? This is asses' decision, that's all.
Śyāmasundara: Well, that's pretty unlikely because they consider that reality is composed of what appears to our senses.
Prabhupāda: That is not reality. Then why there is revolution? If it is reality, then why it is being changed? So in this material world there is a vague idea, reality. Nothing reality. Everything false. Śaṅkarācārya therefore says, jagat mithyā: "It is false." There is no reality. What is reality? What is definition of reality?
Śyāmasundara: What appears to our senses.
Prabhupāda: Then why don't you, whatever you have got, you get it transcribed and send it to Hayagrīva Prabhu.
Śyāmasundara: Well, I'm pretty much going to have to edit this because...
Prabhupāda: Then we'll edit. All right.
Hayagrīva: This is Fichte. He's not as important as Kant or Hegel, but he followed pretty much in the footsteps of Kant. His first work was entitled Our Belief in a Divine Government of the Universe, and he writes, "Our belief in a moral world order must be based on the concept of a supersensible transcendental world."
Prabhupāda: But thing is that what is morality? If he cannot define what is morality, simply saying on moral principles, what is this morality? First of all you have to understand what is morality. Simply imaginary moral principle. We want practical understanding what is morality. That they have not defined.
Journalist: Well, yes, I was pretty sure of that, but God doesn't write checks and stuff like that. I'm just sort of curious. And I must say that...
Prabhupāda: God dictates you and you pay. That's all.
Kīrtanānanda: Well, we have pretty near that in West Virginia.
Allen Ginsberg: In Minnesota gets thirty, forty, sometimes, below.
Kīrtanānanda: There has to have sufficient wood sawed up.
Allen Ginsberg: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Formerly, in Europe they were also living.
Allen Ginsberg: Man lived this way for 20,000 years, 30,000 years until the 19th Century.
Prabhupāda: So we have to live that. Plain living, high thinking. The necessities of this bodily existence, that should be minimized and not unhealthy. Healthy. To keep oneself fit. But the time should be utilized-develop Kṛṣṇa consciousness, spiritual life. Then his whole problem is solved. Here is the big man.
Pradyumna: But it's going pretty fast.
Hayagrīva: You want me to do Nectar of Devotion and then Kṛṣṇa and then Bhagavad-gītā, in that order?
Prabhupāda: Yes. So everything is all right, bṛhat-mṛdaṅga department? Major saṅkīrtana party. They are going, saṅkīrtana parties in different cities. That is junior. But your, this party, it is senior. You are sitting one place; you have to work thousand times more than them. Yes. You have to edit in such a way.
Prabhupāda: Can you carry it?
Pratyatoṣa: Oh, sure. Sonys are actually pretty compact. You can tell by the size of the reels. But, see, there's four meters, so you could record four tracks, four channels simultaneously.
Prabhupāda: And it's stereo?
Pratyatoṣa: Stereo and quadraphonic.
Devotee (1): That means eight..., just like yours, four-track, Śrīla Prabhupāda. This is eight track.
Pratyatoṣa: No, this isn't eight track.
Devotee (1): No?
Pratyatoṣa: This is eight channel. You can only record in one direction when you use four channels. But you can also use it as a standard stereo and record in both directions.
Prabhupāda: First of all this way, then this way.
Prabhupāda: Oh, he is not come. There was no place in the car. There were many negroes.
Guest: (aside:) Sit closer. You belong to this place? No. What place you belong to? (Hindi with other guest) It's a pretty long stick. Let me have a look at it first. It's wrapped in cloth. Oh, I see.
Madhudviṣa: It is four bamboos.
Guest: Huh?
Madhudviṣa: It is called tri-daṇḍi, tridaṇḍi.
Guest: Tridaṇḍa.
Madhudviṣa: Yes.
Guest: Tridaṇḍa.
Prabhupāda: This is Vaiṣṇava.
Prabhupāda: So, fix up the zone.
Śyāmasundara: Well, we pretty much fixed it up, except...
Prabhupāda: So write, write. Take, take some paper. Here is paper. Here.
Prabhupāda: Indian rupee.
Śyāmasundara: Indian rupee. And we thought it might be pretty valuable. So old, more than one hundred years. We went to three places, they all said three, four pounds.
Prabhupāda: So highest bid, what was?
Mukunda: The highest bid I got was one pound. They said if it was in mint condition, we'd get two pounds.
Jesuit Priest: I was just thinking how difficult it is. I read Latin pretty well. And Greek. And I can see the meaning in the original, in the Greek when it was translated from the Aramaic. Now in your translating you can get a phrase, and if you know the language, you know exactly what it conveys.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Karandhara: Americans cannot own gold, store gold. Pretty soon they are going to pass the same law for silver.
Prabhupāda: Just see. Even they cannot have ornaments.
Umāpati: Yes. Pretty much so like Nixon.
Prabhupāda: What is the position of Nixon now?
Umāpati: He's getting more popular.
Prabhupāda: How?
Umāpati: Well, he couldn't get any less popular. So now nothing's happened. So he is the only one available. So he is getting more popular. People forget.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest: And uh, then he started to say, "Well if they believe in an external God," or something like that, "then it is heretical." I says, "But nevertheless," I says, "Uh, like in the writings of, say, Meister Eckhart or the different mystics, they all seem to describe their experience in pretty much similar terms." So I said, I asked him, "Does this mean that the experience is different or not?" So then he argued, he finally says.... Well, he didn't say it directly, but what he said is that if, if you want to get the experience of touching something to find out what hot is, he says you may have different motive. Like some people may do it because it's pretty, some out of curiosity or different motive. In other words, he admitted that the experience finally was the same, even though the approach was different.
Prabhupāda: If the approach is different, suppose in the approach is to fire, the approach may be different, but heat or light is there. So why do they approach fire? But if you are approaching something else, how the same experience is there?
Guest: Well...
Prabhupāda: Say we approach fire, then approach may be a different way, but the goal, it is fire, you will experience heat and light.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. So, how he learned? He is Indian.
Paramahaṁsa: Well, I don't know, but he's pretty good. His band was very popular in America.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Paramahaṁsa: They were very popular. They would travel around and do performances, and thousands of people would come. He had quite a big group of musicians, and he was the leader. He would lead the whole group. He would play the trumpet and sometimes dance.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Then, Ravi Shankar is no more popular?
Paramahaṁsa: Most people think he's too puffed up.
Carol: They're pretty hard to get hold of. I wish there were more around.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that will benefit. That will benefit.
Paramahaṁsa: They seem to be pretty much kṣatriya races.
Prabhupāda: And during Kurukṣetra fight, all different kings joined, either to this party or that party.
Paramahaṁsa: But I feel pretty happy. Everything seems to be... I have a good job.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, the ass also feels happy, dog also feels happy, so you are like ass, dog, like that. They also feel happy.
Dr. Copeland: Ah, that's why. Ah! Pretty! Are you a brāhmaṇa? By birth you're a brāhmaṇa, right?
Prabhupāda: No. I am brāhmaṇa yes. Yes. But we are not... We do not recognize brāhmaṇa by birth. Brāhmaṇa by these qualities. Anyone who has got... This is the shastric injunction, that if the qualities are found somewhere else—that means one who is not born in a brāhmaṇa family but he has the qualities of the brāhmaṇa—then he should be accepted as a brāhmaṇa. That is shastric injunction. Yasya hi yal lakṣaṇaṁ proktaṁ varṇābhivyañjakam, yad anyatrāpi. Anyatra means elsewhere. Tat tenaiva vinirdiśet (SB 7.11.35). "He should be accepted as such." Similarly, if a man, born in brāhmaṇa family but he has the qualities of the śūdras... Paricaryātmakaṁ kāryaṁ śūdra-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.44). Paricarya means service. To accept... (break) So therefore, according to Bhagavad-gītā, nobody is brāhmaṇa. A brāhmaṇa should remain independent. He should live by his qualities. People will honor him. Just like we are training. We do not serve anyone, but we are maintaining big establishment.
Guest (1): I don't know whether I'm a gentleman or not. I'm just a man, and pretty lowly as far as my own opinion's concerned.
Prabhupāda: So different dress does not mean converts. We are in different dress, American body or Indian body or this body, black body or... This is body. But we are within the body.
Guest (2): You know, we are pretty well the first people to see you really, you know. We've all seen you in the books.
Prabhupāda: Thank you.
Ambarīṣa: Prabhupāda, you said the other day that pretty soon all these lies will be exposed.
Prabhupāda: They are already exposed because they have left that expedition. That means they are hopeless. That is exposed. But foolish people will not ask them that "Why you have stopped this expedition?" They will again go on bluffing, and they will accept. That is the position. Now people should ask them, "Why you have stopped moon expedition and Venus expedition? You proposed you were going there, making arrangement. Why you have stopped?" It is failure.
Siddha-svarūpa: "Worship me." (laughs) Yes, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. (break)
Prabhupāda: They were satisfied, "Yes, we shall worship you."
Dharmādhyakṣa: They will have to go on welfare, Prabhupāda, pretty soon.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But a saintly person, even he has no money, people care.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. (break) ...Paṇḍita says, vidvat tvaṁ ca nṛpatvaṁ ca naiva tulyam kadācana: "A rich man, or a king, and a learned man, learned vidvān, they should not be compared. There is no comparison." Why? Sva-deśe pūjyate rājā. "A rich man or a king may be worshiped in his kingdom," vidvān sarvatra pūjyate, "and if a man is learned, he will be worshiped everywhere." Therefore, he says, "Never compare with rich man with learned man."
Prabhupāda: So such a big... simply by touching the electric wire that becomes...
Brahmānanda: Well, they were, I think, steel towers, two hundred feet high, so they were pretty sturdy, and it hit four of them.
Ambarīṣa: There was some bad weather.
Brahmānanda: And then it toppled over.
Prabhupāda: No, in bad weather, towers, but simply by touching, such a big machine became in fire. (laughs) Unsafe everywhere. Padaṁ padaṁ yad vipadam (SB 10.14.58). Every step, there is danger.
Brahmānanda: What is the attitude of the neighbors to us here? They like us?
Nityānanda: Pretty friendly.
Brahmānanda: There's a papaya.
Prabhupāda: They grow nicely here?
Nityānanda: Er, we're trying. I don't know yet.
Devotee (3): Would you like to be fanned, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Harikeśa: Just keep the flies away.
Prabhupāda: He is very friendly to the small calves, this child?
Nityānanda: Yes. That's my boy.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) We can go this way, straight. It goes around the park, around the lake. Usually the mother and the father, or at least the mother, they stay pretty close by.
Prabhupāda: It is double zero?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: There's a z missing. Actually "Zoo Lake" it is called.
Prabhupāda: There are many zoos. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Just see. They do not check their population. How many? About one dozen? No.
Harikeśa: Yes, but dogs they have to lead a pretty miserable life.
Prabhupāda: But you have also, you have got, not living very happy life, this human society. There are others, even Indira Gandhi, she's always disturbed. Who is happy here? I saw personally. Oh, she is so disturbed. Everyone is unhappy. Who is happy here?
Harikeśa: Pretty bad.
Prabhupāda: This is śūdra. If anyone depends on the master's mercy, he's a śūdra. Here in New Delhi, these big, big buildings, big, big officers, as soon as the government will fail, they will be street dogs, that's all. Now they are plundering, by official instrument. Now when the government will be finished, they will be street dog. That's all. This is your civilization. Immediately if all of a sudden there is attack in New Delhi, all the people will starve. There is no food at all, and they'll die.
Harikeśa: You're painting a pretty bleak picture.
Prabhupāda: Paint picture?
Harikeśa: The one you're painting of society, and the future.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yaśodānandana: They do pretty good with old widows, however. (laughter)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Getting a lot of flowers here, it seems.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There must be always all full of flowers.
Siddha-svarūpa: There are a lot of devotees here who follow the principles but cannot completely... (break) ...shaved up, and they still wear karmī clothes pretty much, but they're clean, they're devotees, and in this way they're attracting many of the local people, because they're able to relate to them.
Prabhupāda: So that...
Siddha-svarūpa: They're not lowering your standard.
Prabhupāda: No, naturally, but when they are initiated they must shave. They must keep to the standard. If one becomes initiated and he still keeps the hippie form, that does not look nice. Do you think that is all right? No, that is not good. So long they are coming as outsider, joining kīrtana, they may have their own dress, it doesn't matter. They are coming to kīrtana, that must be (indistinct). But when they are to be initiated, they must follow the rules and regulations given by the spiritual master.
Prabhupāda: Initiation means to follow instructions of the spiritual master. That is the first (indistinct) And if there is still hesitation to surrender to the rules and regulations, then all other (indistinct).
Siddha-svarūpa: I think it is pretty clear, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It's just for clarification, that they're working, they have a store on..., a very nice store, they're distributing foodstuffs to all the other stores on the island, and they're working a lot within the society with the karmīs, I guess. So their thinking is that "If we shave our heads and wear robes, like that, then they'll look at us...
Prabhupāda: That is not... Because imitating. Officially don't chant. Who is prohibiting to chant? You can chant, you can dance, you can take prasādam.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Of course. But he thinks that "I am enjoying."
Hari-śauri: Oh. 'Cause after reading the descriptions in the Bhāgavatam, it seems it's pretty horrific.
Prabhupāda: Well, when one is accustomed, then he thinks it is enjoyment.
Prabhupāda: So Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja, how you are keeping your health?
Kīrtanānanda: Pretty good.
Prabhupāda: That's.... And things are going nice?
Kīrtanānanda: Yes. The devotees are all anxious for you, to see.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And Hayagrīva Mahārāja is being forced? (laughs)
Bill Sauer: I've talked to your people, and I think there's pretty much agreement on the fundamental philosophical concept.
Dr. Sharma: There's something magnetic about it, something creative which comes from inside.
Prabhupāda: Where is our scientist?
Vipina: Svarūpa Dāmodara-could you get him?
Hari-śauri: I already sent somebody for him, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I don't think he's here.
Prabhupāda: He's not here.
Mr. Boyd: You know him, and Himāvatī. I told them I'd see you pretty soon. I thought maybe you might be interested in seeing a few pictures? She said she was your friend, and you were her very good friend, and sent her regards to you. (laughter) That's quite a temple in Vṛndāvana. Very impressive.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you liked it?
Mr. Boyd: Yes, it was quite startling to come up the roadway there, and things looked pretty desolate, and all of a sudden here's this beautiful temple sitting here, and it was a real experience.
Prabhupāda: Oh, here is Mr. Dubhai's picture.
Mr. Boyd: Barbara's been in the movement for two and half years and it's been..., we've heard a lot about you and a lot about the movement, and we've kept pretty close, you know, track of what's going on, and we've visited the different temples and talked to the different devotees, and we're quite impressed with the action.
Prabhupāda: We are having the difficulties of this immigration department.
Interviewer: That's pretty good. (laughter) I think people understand the analogy, they think hammering is the business. What do you think is the business?
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Interviewer: The world thinks hammering is real business.
Prabhupāda: Yes, so our business is to educate them that "Your hammering business is not your life. Your freedom is real business."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I was there. Yeah, that was pretty big. In 1969, that was gigantic.
Prabhupāda: That was also very big. And there was also a crazy man.
George Harrison: Well, it seems okay. Seems to be taken over pretty good. Peacefully.
Prabhupāda: He was also managing Los Angeles. Now we have brought him here to see things nicely managed.
George Harrison: Because I was working as well, so I, you know I think I was pretty tired.
Prabhupāda: Better you cook simple food yourself and take it.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: You'll run out of those pretty...
Jayapatāka: We'll be finished in two months with those thirty thousand.
Acyutānanda: And the response is wonderful within the villages. They all say, "Hare Kṛṣṇa," everywhere.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Acyutānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: How people are receiving this movement all over the world, even (indistinct) to the communist (indistinct). They are trying to kill God, and we are putting God (indistinct) educated families.
Prabhupāda: He's fixed up. That's nice. Let him translate in Orissa and, if possible, in Hindi. And give him few devotees. Then he'll be encouraged.
Jayapatākā: I think he has got two or three devotees now. This man himself is a pretty capable worker. He's somewhat like Prabhu Swarupa, only a little older, little more mature. He's about forty-five or so. He's been able to collect about, what I can see, about fifty thousand rupees for one nātha-mandira. And he has a couple thousand people. I heard from the Gauḍīya Maṭha. They say they have big utsavas there. Every year two three thousand people come.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Trivikrama: Pretty cheap.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Hong Kong is very expensive.
Prabhupāda: No no, let him say.
Trivikrama: Well, you know the book we have, six chapters.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Cyavana? Cyavana Swami? (break) I think they're going to have war in Africa pretty soon. They're going to have war.
Prabhupāda: War. Civil war?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, between... Not where Kenya is but between Rhodesia and Zambia, in that area.
Hari-śauri: Whites and blacks.
Prabhupāda: That is inevitable. The whites cannot...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Rhodesia has rejected...
Prabhupāda: ...cannot kill them, repress any more. That is not possible. The other blacks will join.
Prabhupāda: But they are accustomed. They can...
Rāmeśvara: We need some pretty good men if you start sailing the...
Gargamuni: Oh, yes, we'll get a good navigator, definitely.
Rāmeśvara: You'll hire someone?
Gargamuni: No, we'll get a retired man. They'd love the work. Just like we have that engineer. He's a retired engineer. We pay him some small salary...
Prabhupāda: Why you want to go by boat to the coast?
Gargamuni: Because you can't get by road. There's no roads. They're dirt roads. Many of the villages you can't get to except along the water routes.
Prabhupāda: Hm. But so far I know, it is very rough, Bay of Bengal.
Prabhupāda: And why not?
Gargamuni: I'd have to inquire, but I'm pretty sure it's managed by the government, because they're allowing us to enter the temple. There's also a place being offered in West Bengal. I personally went there and took photographs. It's in Kharampur.
Prabhupāda: Kharampur.
Prabhupāda: So you can arrange when it will be suitable to go there.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Any time will be suitable. This is pretty cold at this time.
Prabhupāda: Then it is not so good.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But I think we can pretty much convince the academic circles rather easily. Our philosophy is so strong and powerful that I think we can make a good presentation in the educated circles, especially colleges and universities.
Prabhupāda: Hm. That is nice. So that we are trying. We have got already books in the educated circles.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Not only books, but good solid presentation, to make...
Prabhupāda: That is... That you are. In our Institute you lecture.
Prabhupāda: The practical example is there. In everywhere they are coming to the temple. So in England there is opposition.
Jayatīrtha: Not really. There's none of this deprogramming or any trouble like that. People are pretty peaceful. We have a pretty good reputation. The government doesn't oppose us.
Prabhupāda: They oppose our Ratha-yātrā.
Prabhupāda: Where is such publisher?
Rādhā-vallabha: That's one for every five people in America. And second is Spanish: 2,947,000. Third is German: 2,125,500. Then Japanese, I had to make a guess. I'm not sure, but this is pretty close: 2,125,000. Fifth is French: 1,670,000.
Prabhupāda: There should be... A big board should be hang.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...the matter is completely to be decided. He said, "Either religion wins or we win." He said, "It will be decided pretty soon." I think it is already decided, because we promised about ten years ago that those chemicals, if we make those, then we'll have life in a test tube. But actually we have all those chemicals made. So I said, "We have the know-hows. We have the equipments. We have all the chemicals. But still we can't do it." So that means it's...
Prabhupāda: It is failure. You cannot do.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, in principle he agreed that science plays...
Prabhupāda: And Bhagavad-gītā clearly said, it is different thing completely. It is not matter. Nainaṁ chindanti śastrāṇi. Where is that thing which cannot be cut into pieces? Bring that, any scientist. Bring that thing which cannot be cut by scientific method. Bring that thing which cannot be burned. That is stated. Find out the verse. You cannot neglect the statement of Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: One door is lacking.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One door there and one more door outside is still lacking. Still, it is pretty quiet.
Bhavānanda: And then if we pull the drapes over the doors it will be very quiet, these drapes.
Prabhupāda: All right. You can open. So that was my dictaphone.
Prabhupāda: Nobody is joining?
Lokanātha: Yeah, the boys who are on the party, they are confident that in Bengal they should get some more boys to join. That's what they wrote to me. So I did not get any more reports. They are pretty good boys, they should be doing...
Prabhupāda: It is difficult to make one devotee. That is... Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye (BG 7.3). So if two, three men are there, that is sufficient for preaching also. You have to sit down any place and chant, and people will join. Local men. Not permanently, but at least to continue chanting.
Prabhupāda: He is known to the ambassador, American ambassador.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. He took me there once. He knew him pretty well. But every time he would tell these stories.
Prabhupāda: Keath, Mr. Keath?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Keating, Kenneth Keating.
Prabhupāda: So he was very friendly with him. And he used to talk in his personal room. He made friends with him, his girl-friend. And she offered herself. "Please come in, in our park."
Prabhupāda: At this time, in other parts of India it is very hot.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: April, very hot. Actually, I'm pretty...
Prabhupāda: Except in Calcutta.
Prabhupāda: So it is somewhere near.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It must be pretty near.
Girirāja: I think, Bandara(?).
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: First rows(?).
Girirāja: Bandara or Khar(?).
Prabhupāda: So contact him. If he's sincere, let him cooperate with us. We'll make everything nice. And if they want to eat hog's flesh and wine, at the same time become harijana, (laughs) that is not possible.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In the Western countries, they use, everyone.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yeah. So Gargamuni did pretty well with those standing orders. No sooner... He says that actually you knew that it was going to happen, so you wanted him to get some glory, so you arranged like that.
Prabhupāda: Everyone engaged in some particular department, he must improve and... Then things will go on nice. Upendra is very neat.
Prabhupāda: No, sleeping in the train, there is no difficulty.
Kārttikeya: No, some people do not get. Because of the movement, some people do not get sometimes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You've slept pretty well whenever we take train.
Kārttikeya: (aside:) Does he like air-conditioned coach?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside:) No, he likes the open. He likes open air.
Prabhupāda: So do that.
Prabhupāda: But He had this plan.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Pretty nice plan.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa wanted that "You left Vṛndāvana. I'll give you better place in Vṛndāvana. (chuckles) You were retired in Vṛndāvana. I obliged you to leave. Now you come back. I'll give you better place." So He has given a temple hundred times better than Los Angeles. Is it not?
Prabhupāda: ...ashes. This is going on. Hm? (Bengali)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, this will be for everybody because just starting here. But especially I like to attack the Japan and the United States, 'cause Japan and the United States, they are pretty much the leading bars, very...
Prabhupāda: Stubborn.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: For a while they did a pretty good job.
Prabhupāda: No, artificially you can do for a while. Unless it is sound footing, it cannot stay. You can cheat some people for some time..., no, all time. You can cheat some people for all time, and all people for some time, not all people for all time. This is the... That was their business, to cheat some people for all time and cheat all people for some time. But not all people for all time. That is not possible.
Prabhupāda: No, I could not.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're pretty hard. These are very good on the long saṅkīrtana days. If someone has to go out for many hours, he takes some of these and puts them in his pocket. Then every hour he can eat one, and it gives him strength. Just like the villagers in India, they put in a little napkin. They put some... What is that? Ḍāl. Chickpeas.
Prabhupāda: The villagers, these grain soaked in water, they... Not cooked.
Prabhupāda: Read the covering.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's pretty much the whole thing.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Pamphlet.
Prabhupāda: What is the benefit?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In terms of time? You mean flight time instead of stopping in New York, what is the benefit of flying direct? Just the landing time in New York you save. The flight is pretty much the same. You save at least an hour to an hour and a half, two hours. Because when the flight goes from London to New York, when it first hits America, it hits America north of Canada practically, and then they go down the eastern seaboard. It hits Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, and then it goes south down Massachusetts, like that, Connecticut, and then to New York.
Prabhupāda: But it does not stop.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There we should go. I'll talk further with them. Find out what the climate is like, everything. Make sure. Wherever we go, we should pretty much be sure it is just nice. Would you like to hear some reading now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Hm. You can sit down here. As far as possible, while reading Caitanya-caritāmṛta you should not sit down(?) because you are with Caitanya-caritāmṛta. Unless there is some inconvenience. So at least it should be on the same level. It is respect to Caitanya-caritāmṛta book. Sit down. So you can bring milk?
Upendra: Milk.
Prabhupāda: How many copies they have published?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think... I got a letter from Satsvarūpa yesterday. I think this issue was 400,000. It varies between 400-and 500,000 copies. Generally about a half a million every month. Pretty good standard.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. (break) ...bad education. They have learned to... No education. (aside:) Get this down here. I am seriously thinking how to do. Organized, a society for sinful activities, Western. Now you are advanced, sincerely carry on. At least in America.
Prabhupāda: Very nice. Good combination.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's been there now, Parivrājakācārya Swami, he's been there now for, I think, two or three years now. He's worked pretty faithfully there. He tricks them. In the guise of teaching a little haṭha-yoga, then he teaches bhakti.
Prabhupāda: That is preaching.
Brahmānanda: You also tricked us, Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you came to New York. You were just chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa and speaking on Bhagavad-gītā, and we came and we listened, and then you took everything. You took our lives, took all of our money... (devotees chuckle) We left our families.
Prabhupāda: There is a Bengali word, "Enter like a needle and come out like a plow." (laughter)
Prabhupāda: But if you are disgusted, that is another thing.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: One thing, though, if we take the x-rays, that will pretty much clearly tell whether there is any tubercular infection in the lungs.
Prabhupāda: They are expecting.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You mean generally to keep everything in order. Yes, I have a very good hold on it. Some things... You know, because formerly they never kept these things down. Now I'm finding out things. But whenever I get extra information, I note it. Pretty much I have all of the things in order. Just like now I just found out for the first time that he's getting a monthly interest from one of the fixed deposits in the name of BBT. That was never noted. So when I find out the amount, I'll just note it. Then I can deduct it each month from the account that I'm keeping. Like that, sometimes I get new information.
Prabhupāda: So you have to search out.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Mr. Das, our friend from Calcutta, can come. It's pretty much now... It's already drafted, and... It would just have to be redrafted again on new stamp paper or the words would have to be changed. It would have to be retyped on stamp paper from Bengal side. The basic writing is...
Prabhupāda: That means unfinished despite unfinished.
| Page Title: | Pretty |
| Compiler: | Mangalavati, Mayapur |
| Created: | 09 of May, 2011 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=1, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=8, Con=69, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 78 |