Guest (5): ...if each and every person has an individual identity of (indistinct) soul above the body consciousness and unless you treat him as equal, there is little...
Prabhupāda: No, nobody... You cannot say... Even though they are equal, you can see equal but they are not equal. They are not equal. There are three guṇas, and in the Bhagavad-gītā that is analyzed, that "These persons are in the sattva-guṇa, these persons are in the rajo-guṇa, these persons are in..."
Guest (5): That is not personality of the ātmā, but the ātmā is everybody's soul.
Prabhupāda: That's all... First of all we have...
Guest (5): If you have potency to rise and go higher and higher...
Prabhupāda: You are not on the ātmā stage; I am not in the ātmā stage. You are in the bodily stage.