Saurabha: MRA? It's a moral institute. It's very big.
Prabhupāda: MRA?
Saurabha: MRA, yes.
Prabhupāda: Moral...?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Moral Re-armament.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Saurabha: It's just on the other side.
Prabhupāda: So it is still existing?
Saurabha: Oh, yes. The building is excellent, but nothing is going on. Only twice a year they have a meeting. But it's very well built.
Prabhupāda: Their propaganda is that "You do sinful. You do whatever you like. You simply admit. Confession. Then you'll be..."
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Atone.
Prabhupāda: This is morality. "You commit immorality as much as you like. You simply admit it. Then it's right" (indistinct) This is their propaganda. They do not want to stop immorality. "You do, and don't hide it—you admit." But persons are so shameless that they will continually do, and they have no shamefulness to hide even. That is the Christian theory, that "Our religion is so... Maybe we are unable to remain without any sin. Christ will excuse us." Is it not? This is going on. This is.
Saurabha: They're also criticized a lot there. They have been criticized a lot there locally. People, they think they are CIA.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Us?
Saurabha: No. The MRA. Because they have big meetings twice a year only.
Prabhupāda: The MRA, they are Americans?
Saurabha: Yes. Most are Europeans, Americans.
Prabhupāda: This movement was started by President Eisenhower with the help of a Christian priest.
Saurabha: Now the son of Gandhi, he is the main president...
Prabhupāda: Who?
Saurabha: The son of Mahatma Gandhi.
Prabhupāda: Shri Ramdal(?) Gandhi?
Saurabha: He's the head man of that institute there. And then some very big European industrialist they are also involved. They've spent two crores of rupees on that complex. It's very well maintained also. I went into the building. It's excellent. But there is nobody.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Nobody.