Prabhupāda: Condemned, especially the Indian Muhammadans. I had one friend. He is of Afghan... (background noise) What is the trouble?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just check...
Prabhupāda: So he was coming daily to see me in my pharmacy. We talked sometimes little intimately, friendly, with his son. So one day we were talking. Dr. Jīva also was attending. So one Muhammadan woman... They're very dirty. So she was passing to go to see doctor, and that... His name was Ser Khan. He belonged to the royal family of Afghanistan. So he was doing like this. So I said, "You hate Muhammadans? She is Muhammadan woman." "Oh, we don't accept Muhammadan. They are (indistinct)." That means Indian Muhammadans are not even accepted by the Muhammadans in other countries.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He was a Muhammadan.
Prabhupāda: He was Muhammadan, Afghanistan, very royal family.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: So he was doing... "Well, she is Muhammadan woman. You hate?" "Oh! They are not Muhammadans. We don't accept Muhammadan." These are my personal experience. They do not accept. Turkey also refused. When there were wars the, some of the Muhammadan leaders, Muhammad Ali, they wanted to present himself. He refused to accept. He said, "Go! You are not to see your business." His name was... He was very famous man. So they want to mix with the other Muhammadan countries like Afghanistan, Turkey... (break) They do not like. And actually it is a fact. Indian Muhammadans means all low-class Hindus, they converted into. Christian also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: And no brāhmaṇas were converted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Prabhupāda: They did not accept. Therefore we see there is indirect indifference with our temple. Did you mark it? The high-class Hindus, they do not very much appreciate our...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Which one?
Prabhupāda: Our temples.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Our temples?
Prabhupāda: Because it is managed by the Americans. Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In all of our temples here? All of our temples here. Yeah, actually people like the Samanis, they don't... They come to see you, but they don't... Even the Deity may be superbeautiful, superexcellent, but they won't go near Him.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I wanted these harijana. Harijana.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: 'Cause they don't distinguish like that.
Prabhupāda: No. They are searching after some guide.