Pradyumna: Dāmpatye 'bhirucir hetur.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Ruci. Ruci means liking. Then?
Pradyumna: I think it is māyaiva vyāvahārike.
Prabhupāda: Ah, māyaiva vyāvahārike. In ordinary dealings there is cheating. This is Kali-yuga. Ordinarily, even when gentleman-gentleman, so-called gentlemen talking, he's trying to cheat him, he's trying to cheat him. By talking. And ordinarily. Māyaiva vyāvahārike. To talk with gentleman-gentleman, it is ordinary thing, but still there will be so many untruthfulness. Māyaiva vyāvahārike. Then?
Pradyumna: Strītve puṁstve ca hi ratir vipratve sūtram eva hi.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. And woman is nice, man is nice, this should be considered by sex power. Strītve puṁstve ca hi ratir. Then?
Pradyumna: Vipratve sūtram eva hi.
Prabhupāda: Vipratve sūtram eva hi. And there is a brāhmaṇa—what is the proof that he is a brāhmaṇa? He has got a sacred thread, that's all. Or thread. It may not be sacred; purchased from the market. So at least we try to give a sacred thread by ceremony. But anyone can purchase a thread from the market, two-paisa worth or one-cent worth, and become a brāhmaṇa. "You are a brāhmaṇa?" "Yes, you see my sacred thread?" (laughter) Finished. "What you are doing?" "Never mind." Don't be such brāhmaṇas, at least in our camp. You must follow the rules and regulations. Don't show that "I am now doubly initiated, sacred thread." Don't cheat in that way. Vipratve sūtram eva hi. Then?
Pradyumna: Liṅgam evāśrama-khyātāv.
Prabhupāda: Liṅgam evāśrama-khyātāv. There are āśramas—brahmacārī, sannyāsī, gṛhastha. So they have got different dresses. So Kali-yuga, simply by dress he becomes a brahmacārī, he become a gṛhastha, he becomes a sannyāsī. Simply by dress. What he is acting, nobody cares, that's all. Then?
Pradyumna: Liṅgam, eva.
Prabhupāda: Liṅgam means the external feature. This is the dress of a sannyāsī, this is the dress of a gṛhastha. Just like daṇḍa. Daṇḍa is the symptom that he is a sannyāsī. Then?
Pradyumna: Liṅgam evāśrama-khyātāv anyonyāpatti-kāraṇam.