Prabhupāda: So those who were there, they understood. They...
Dr. Patel: Unfortunate for the world it is not going to do that.
Prabhupāda: No, there was no preaching. That's it. Now the preaching is going on. They are understanding. Nobody preached this. If you... Just like a big building. If the foundation is wrong, then it will not stay.
Dr. Patel: This Bhagavad-gītā has got everything, all aspects of life.
Prabhupāda: No, no. This is the beginning of teaching, that "You are not this body." If you remain in the false understanding that "I am this body," "I am Indian," "I am Englishman," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," there is no spiritual education. Mohita. That is called mohita. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvair, mohitaṁ nābhijānāti. He remains in ignorance. (aside:) (Hindi) Jaya.
Passerby: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: He's a great devotee. Humbleness.
- tṛṇād api sunīcena
- taror api sahiṣṇunā
- amāninā mānadena
- kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
- (CC Adi 17.31)
Caitanya...
Dr. Patel: Out of all those things, māna...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: ...is the first thing that a man should...
Prabhupāda: Humble and meek. Christ also taught like that. "The humble and meek will go to the kingdom of God."
Dr. Patel: "Meek and humble will..." What is that?
Prabhupāda: Here the disease is nobody is humble, nobody is meek.
Dr. Patel: That is car-dharma.
Prabhupāda: Not car...
Dr. Patel: Car-dharma is that.
Prabhupāda: That is material dharma.
Dr. Patel: This is Kali-yuga, going on.
Prabhupāda: Kali-yuga, it is excessive, but this is going on. Even... Maybe in Satya-yuga it was less.
Dr. Patel: Maybe nothing, perhaps, the first Satya-yuga. People were all saints.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Dr. Patel: But they are fools. They should have kept more on the side of it.
Prabhupāda: It is now in the middle of the street.
Dr. Patel: The government of this country is going on everywhere.
Prabhupāda: We have nothing to do. We are world, but it is in the middle of the street.