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Conversations and Morning Walks
1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Satsvarūpa: All right. So the whole thing, then, would read like... This is a proposal that it should read like this: "I, spiritual name, as initiated disciple, and GBC secretary of His Divine Grace..."
Madhudviña: Both names should be there.
Atreya Ṛṣi: No, prabhuji...
Madhudviña: Spiritual and, and, and legal name...
Atreya Ṛṣi: It should start with this.
Satsvarūpa: Well, it's not sure what it should start with. That's it.
Madhudviña: Both names should be there because a spiritual name is not legal.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a fact.
Jayatīrtha: Both names. Good.
Satsvarūpa: "...as GBC secretary of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, the founder..."
Prabhupāda: You... You... You make one copy, your copy, and make addition, alteration, corrections, and then copy the same thing for other men. That will be easier.
Satsvarūpa: All right.
Prabhupāda: You... You just fill up one copy, as you are doing. So make addition, alteration, your name, your spiritual name, everything complete. So, following that copy, others will do. (?) Is that all right?
Atreya Ṛṣi: I recommend that we keep this one.
Prabhupāda: Or you can make... Anyone, you can take.
Atreya Ṛṣi: In this shape.
Prabhupāda: You, you can make addition, alteration, everything, and read it complete. Then take that proposal. That's all.
Jayatīrtha: So maybe, Atreya Ṛṣi, you can write out a final draft of it...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: ...including both things, and then you can read it to everyone.
Atreya Ṛṣi: Where's Brahmānanda Swami?
Jayatīrtha: Is that all right? Should we go on while he's writing?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: We can go on.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: The main purpose of these points is simply to try to put it down in writing what the GBC man can do himself, what things he requires—the whole group—what things he requires to consult with others on, in this way, so there won't be any question "What I can do, what I can't do." Is that all right?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: O.K. (Reading) "To insure that the highest standards, including spiritual temple worship, saṅkīrtana propaganda, recruitment of new devotees and life members, financial management and repayment of all debts are being adhered to."
Prabhupāda: Why debts? Debts should be avoided. Not payment, but one should not make debt.
Jayatīrtha: But that... All temples... All the temples are in debt.
Prabhupāda: Why? That's not... Debts are very wrong. (?)
Jayatīrtha: Either they owe BBT money or they owe bank money.
Prabhupāda: That is not good. Debts should be... No debts. If any temple wants to make debt, it must be sanctioned by the GBC committee.
Jayatīrtha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Make it clear.Jayatīrtha: Six months after first initiation. All right. So the next role for the GBC man is to act as the designated representative of Śrīla Prabhupāda to settle all philosophic, procedural disputes which may arise and are not settled at the temple level. In other words, any philosophic question a temple president can't ans...
Prabhupāda: No, you... Eh?
Jayatīrtha: If there's some philosophic question and the temple president can't answer it, then the GBC...
Prabhupāda: Then GBC should be consulted. And if the GBC cannot answer, then I'll answer.
Jayatīrtha: Right. Or, if there's some quarrel—one man doesn't like another man, and the temple president can't solve it-then...
Prabhupāda: What is quarrel?
Jayatīrtha: ...the GBC man can solve it.
Prabhupāda: There is no question of quarrel. Quarrel is material.
Jayatīrtha: Yes. But it is the Age of Quarrel.
Prabhupāda: Quarrel is not good.Prabhupāda: The one thing is that GBC is wandering. If the checks are to be signed, then where is the GBC?
Rūpānuga: There's no account, no GBC account.
Prabhupāda: The... The money matters should be dealt with the president, secretary and the treasurer, three men. Out of three, two should sign. And GBC's business is to see that things are going on, money matters. That's all. GBC is not supposed to deal directly. He has to inspect. That's all.
Atreya Ṛṣi: So I can cross this...
Prabhupāda: Just like... But the thing is, if the GBC and the president is the same man, that is not good. That is not good. The president should be separate. So the president, treasurer and secretary, they will deal directly, and GBC should inspect book, account, that it is done very nicely. That's all. You can question, "Why you have done this?" That's nice. Otherwise, in the..., it will be difficult to manage.
Rūpānuga: Yes. We don't want to become entangled in that money.
Prabhupāda: Ah!
Rūpānuga: We don't want to become entangled in that money.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Madhudviña: What controls? What controls in the matter of money then?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Madhudviña: Who has control of the money?
Prabhupāda: Control means if there is vigilant, I mean to say, examination, inspection, then there is control of money.
Madhudviña: Well, let's say someone gives the temple president some money, and he puts in an account with his name and the treasurer's name, and they both conspire and take the money. Then there's no...
Prabhupāda: Yes. That you can do also.
Atreya Ṛṣi: Anyway...
Madhudviña: Yes, but...
Prabhupāda: GBC can do also.
Madhudviña: But isn't the GBC supposed to be more trusted than the temple president?
Prabhupāda: Then everyone can do, who has got the...
Bhagavān: The BBT trustees did it.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Bhagavān: The BBT trustees also did it. They took unsanctioned loan from the BBT.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda, what about in a case like myself. I'm a sannyāsī, and I have a traveling saṅkīrtana party. So can I handle that money?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'm a sannyāsī with a travelling preaching party. So I have no... Because I am personally seeing to the money, tbere's no debt on that party. Is that all right?
Prabhupāda: That you decide amongst the GBC. (laughter) Best thing is that don't keep money.1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Jayapatākā: The difficulty is right now we have twenty thousand rupees worth of cloth in stock. That is all profit. We only are three thousand rupees in debt. But we have all the cloth. We have no customers.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Gargamuni: There's no customers. We have a huge stock...
Prabhupāda: You send immediately to America. They will pay.
Gargamuni: we sent a newsletter to get people to buy cloth the cloth because we have a huge stock of it.
Prabhupāda: Now, you ask Bhagavān. He is very clever. He's expert.
Jayapatākā: We are worried that now we're getting good men to join, they're doing good work, then how...
Prabhupāda: I think if you prepare according to the order of our foreign centers, then you won't be... They will all give. You can make fine cloth?
Jayapatākā: We can make up to eighty count. Eighty count we can make now.
Prabhupāda: They are purchasing cloth, shirt, and everything.
Jayapatākā: They're saying... Sometimes they say that "The cloth you make is not what we like." But I tell them we can make any cloth. You give us sample. You tell us. We'll make to your specification." They don't...
Prabhupāda: Even... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa, Jayatīrtha, Bhagavān dāsa, they'll help.
Jayapatākā: The GBC's can write a letter, and I'll sign it, you and Gopāla Kṛṣṇa.
Gargamuni: All right, I'll write a letter. Let's not bother Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: How is that, twenty thousand stock is there? You can send it? In India there is no customer?
Gargamuni: No, because it's made according to European length. Big size.
Jayapatākā: Up to now we've been making according to the devotee's specification. To make for Indian to make a different type. We can also make Indian sari and other thing. They'll be cheaper one. but previously we were making because we thought that all the
foreign branches...Correspondence
1970 Correspondence
1973 Correspondence
1974 Correspondence
Dear GBC Godbrothers:
Please accept our humble obeisances. Srila Prabhupada has become very disturbed at the news that Hamsaduta Prabhu has closed the Edinburgh temple without consulting Srila Prabhupada and has asked us to issue the following memo. No GBC man can whimsically do anything without consulting Srila Prabhupada, especially in the matter of opening a new temple and closing an old one. Such activities must be absolutely regulated and cannot be done without consultation of Srila Prabhupada and other GBC. In the annual meeting in Mayapur the activities of the whole year should be resolved, and the GBC cannot do more or less than that.
In addition Srila Prabhupada reiterates that all GBC must strictly follow the rules and regulations and do what Srila Prabhupada does. We must be the strict prototypes of Srila Prabhupada. We must be pure by preaching and chanting. To close a temple is a very serious business, as well as opening one. It means that we are calling Krsna to come and reside there. Once Krsna is there, we cannot tell Him to now leave. Whimsically closing a temple means we do not understand what is devotional service and violates bhakti. Only under very extraordinary conditions can a temple be closed when there is consultation. Even then a temple is not to be eliminated but moved to an other place. We hope this meets you in good health.
- Approved Signed
- A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
- Brahmananda Swami
- Bali Mardan das
- Bhagavan das
I hope this meets you in good health. Have I seen the new copy of the French Ishopanishad?
- Your servant,
- Brahmananda Swami
- Personal Secretary
- Approved: ACBS
1975 Correspondence
1976 Correspondence
Page Title: | GBC can... |
Compiler: | Visnu Murti |
Created: | 27 of jan, 2008 |
No. of Quotes: | 16 |
Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=5, Let=11 |